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AZardoz
First time on the forum.  My search didn't turn up this particular problem.

Is it possible to have a variable scheduled date?  
I have some deposits that are made 2 business days before the end of the
month, e.g. 28th or 29th.
I know how to adjust for weekends & I can live with February being the odd
duck, though a formula would take care of that too.
The scheduler does not seem to have an option for this.
Any help would be much appreciated.




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Re: variable scheduled date

Liz
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 21:35:19 -0700 (MST)
AZardoz <[hidden email]> wrote:

> First time on the forum.  My search didn't turn up this particular
> problem.
>
> Is it possible to have a variable scheduled date?  
> I have some deposits that are made 2 business days before the end of
> the month, e.g. 28th or 29th.
> I know how to adjust for weekends & I can live with February being
> the odd duck, though a formula would take care of that too.
> The scheduler does not seem to have an option for this.
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>

You can pick up the 26th, 28th or 29th as individual date choices
So one answer is to make 12 different scheduled transactions, although
you make be able to do it in fewer.

If you then make a change to indicate what to do on a weekend, you
could be able to do what you wish.

It looks tedious, but is a one time setup.

Liz
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Re: variable scheduled date

Adrien Monteleone
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You can also set this for the most usual date, 29th, and either simply change the date as needed for the other 5 months of the year, or do the same and set the scheduled transaction as simply a reminder instead of being auto-created.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 22, 2018, at 10:35 PM, AZardoz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> First time on the forum.  My search didn't turn up this particular problem.
>
> Is it possible to have a variable scheduled date?  
> I have some deposits that are made 2 business days before the end of the
> month, e.g. 28th or 29th.
> I know how to adjust for weekends & I can live with February being the odd
> duck, though a formula would take care of that too.
> The scheduler does not seem to have an option for this.
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
>
>
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Re: variable scheduled date

Jean-David Beyer-2
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On 02/22/2018 11:35 PM, AZardoz wrote:

> First time on the forum.  My search didn't turn up this particular problem.
>
> Is it possible to have a variable scheduled date?  
> I have some deposits that are made 2 business days before the end of the
> month, e.g. 28th or 29th.
> I know how to adjust for weekends & I can live with February being the odd
> duck, though a formula would take care of that too.
> The scheduler does not seem to have an option for this.
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>

My social security payment is in reality, deposited on the second
Wednesday of each month. I have never figured out _a good way_ to get
GnuCash to do this.


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Re: variable scheduled date

Fross, Michael
Hello Jean-David,

I believe this can be done in the scheduled transaction editor.  Select
frequency to monthly, every 1 month.  Then choose "on the 2nd Wed"

Michael

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Jean-David Beyer <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> On 02/22/2018 11:35 PM, AZardoz wrote:
> > First time on the forum.  My search didn't turn up this particular
> problem.
> >
> > Is it possible to have a variable scheduled date?
> > I have some deposits that are made 2 business days before the end of the
> > month, e.g. 28th or 29th.
> > I know how to adjust for weekends & I can live with February being the
> odd
> > duck, though a formula would take care of that too.
> > The scheduler does not seem to have an option for this.
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> >
>
> My social security payment is in reality, deposited on the second
> Wednesday of each month. I have never figured out _a good way_ to get
> GnuCash to do this.
>
>
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Re: variable scheduled date

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On 02/23/2018 10:48 AM, Fross, Michael wrote:
> Hello Jean-David,
>
> I believe this can be done in the scheduled transaction editor.  Select
> frequency to monthly, every 1 month.  Then choose "on the 2nd Wed"
>
> Michael

I have choices like that only for 1st to 31st of month, last day of
month, and Last Monday of month, Last Tuesday ...

I am running GnuCash 2.4.15 that I do not suppose is the latest and
greatest (2.6.19), but gnucash-2.4.15-4.el6.x86_64.rpm is what is
available on EPEL for my distribution of Linux (RHEL6).

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Re: variable scheduled date

Fross, Michael
I am running the latest stable version (2.6.19), but I see the following
per the screenshot.  There are a lot of options.  This is on Ubuntu, but I
see the same options on Windows.

Michael


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> On 02/23/2018 10:48 AM, Fross, Michael wrote:
> > Hello Jean-David,
> >
> > I believe this can be done in the scheduled transaction editor.  Select
> > frequency to monthly, every 1 month.  Then choose "on the 2nd Wed"
> >
> > Michael
>
> I have choices like that only for 1st to 31st of month, last day of
> month, and Last Monday of month, Last Tuesday ...
>
> I am running GnuCash 2.4.15 that I do not suppose is the latest and
> greatest (2.6.19), but gnucash-2.4.15-4.el6.x86_64.rpm is what is
> available on EPEL for my distribution of Linux (RHEL6).
>
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Jean-David Beyer-2
On 02/23/2018 12:02 PM, Fross, Michael wrote:
> I am running the latest stable version (2.6.19), but I see the following
> per the screenshot.  There are a lot of options.  This is on Ubuntu, but
> I see the same options on Windows.
>
Those additions you see must have occurred since my version of GnuCash.
Unfortunately, I will be unable to upgrade until EPEL do it, and that is
unlikely. So until I upgrade my Linux distribution to RHEL8 (not yet
released), I must stay here.

I am running GnuCash 2.4.15 that I do not suppose is the latest and
greatest (2.6.19), but gnucash-2.4.15-4.el6.x86_64.rpm is what is
available on EPEL for my distribution of Linux (RHEL6).


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Re: variable scheduled date

Dave H
Hi Jean-David,

Yes version 2.4.15 was released just over 4 years / 20 versions ago so I'm
not surprised you're missing out on a lot of the good stuff :-)

I'm sure there must be ways of updating to a later version even on RedHat
just like I have already done on Ubuntu.

I see epel list an srpm for gnucash 2.6.18-1 under both
http://download3.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/7/SRPMS/Packages/g/ and
http://download3.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/7Server/SRPMS/Packages/g/ so
I'm surprised you can't upgrade to at least that version ?

Cheers Dave H.

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> On 02/23/2018 12:02 PM, Fross, Michael wrote:
> > I am running the latest stable version (2.6.19), but I see the following
> > per the screenshot.  There are a lot of options.  This is on Ubuntu, but
> > I see the same options on Windows.
> >
> Those additions you see must have occurred since my version of GnuCash.
> Unfortunately, I will be unable to upgrade until EPEL do it, and that is
> unlikely. So until I upgrade my Linux distribution to RHEL8 (not yet
> released), I must stay here.
>
> I am running GnuCash 2.4.15 that I do not suppose is the latest and
> greatest (2.6.19), but gnucash-2.4.15-4.el6.x86_64.rpm is what is
> available on EPEL for my distribution of Linux (RHEL6).
>
>
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Re: variable scheduled date

Jean-David Beyer-2
On 02/23/2018 01:51 PM, Dave H wrote:

> Hi Jean-David,
>
> Yes version 2.4.15 was released just over 4 years / 20 versions ago so
> I'm not surprised you're missing out on a lot of the good stuff :-)
>
> I'm sure there must be ways of updating to a later version even on
> RedHat just like I have already done on Ubuntu.
>
> I see epel list an srpm for gnucash 2.6.18-1 under both
> http://download3.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/7/SRPMS/Packages/g/
> and http://download3.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/7Server/SRPMS/Packages/g/ so
> I'm surprised you can't upgrade to at least that version ?

I cannot just upgrade a single package. To do that, I would have to go
through hell to get all the required libraries. I have done that in the
past: NEVER AGAIN! It took me several weeks to make some package work
that way. I think it was VLC. For that, I had to install 26 other
packages, and finding just the exact version of each took over a week.

I would have to upgrade my system from RHEL6 to RHEL7, and doing that
takes about a month of aggravation to get everything configured
correctly again. That is why I skip every other upgrade. Red Hat support
their releases for 10 years.

Also, I do not want to bother compiling from source.

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David Carlson-4
I am lost in this thread.  I thought that the point of Linux was to use
RPMs to do the dirty work of installing the software.  In fedora that would
be "yum install gnucash".  Are you saying that does not work?

David C

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Jean-David Beyer <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> On 02/23/2018 01:51 PM, Dave H wrote:
> > Hi Jean-David,
> >
> > Yes version 2.4.15 was released just over 4 years / 20 versions ago so
> > I'm not surprised you're missing out on a lot of the good stuff :-)
> >
> > I'm sure there must be ways of updating to a later version even on
> > RedHat just like I have already done on Ubuntu.
> >
> > I see epel list an srpm for gnucash 2.6.18-1 under both
> > http://download3.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/7/SRPMS/Packages/g/
> > and http://download3.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/7Server/
> SRPMS/Packages/g/ so
> > I'm surprised you can't upgrade to at least that version ?
>
> I cannot just upgrade a single package. To do that, I would have to go
> through hell to get all the required libraries. I have done that in the
> past: NEVER AGAIN! It took me several weeks to make some package work
> that way. I think it was VLC. For that, I had to install 26 other
> packages, and finding just the exact version of each took over a week.
>
> I would have to upgrade my system from RHEL6 to RHEL7, and doing that
> takes about a month of aggravation to get everything configured
> correctly again. That is why I skip every other upgrade. Red Hat support
> their releases for 10 years.
>
> Also, I do not want to bother compiling from source.
>
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Jean-David Beyer-2
On 02/23/2018 06:40 PM, David Carlson wrote:
> I am lost in this thread.  I thought that the point of Linux was to use
> RPMs to do the dirty work of installing the software.  In fedora that would
> be "yum install gnucash".  Are you saying that does not work?
>
> David C
>

Yes, it would not work because the server that would respond to yum is
the one Red Hat maintains to support (in my case) RHEL6. Were I running
RHEL7, it would get things from that. But in either case, Red Hat do not
support Gnucash (and do not support VLC), so I would need to download
the rpms from elsewhere. And it is not that easy because the rpm's will
not install unless all the dependencies are already there. And to get
them is almost impossible for most things.

When I downloaded VLC, for example, I needed a few libraries. I found
and downloaded some of those. They wanted more. Some of them needed
other libraries and they did not exist. So I had to get rid of some and
get other versions of those, and so on. It took over a week to get VLC
to work. And I was trying to install VLC because some other video player
(and mp3 player) stopped working.

The only way I got GnuCash to work is that it is not quite as
complicated as VLC, and the EPEL project has Gnucash in it. They do not
upgrade it though. They have a version that works, and that is that. The
EPEL for Gnucash in RHEL7 will not install in RHEL6, and I am not
prepared to upgrade my RHEL6 system just to get the latest Gnucash.
(Even were I to do that, there is no reason to believe that that version
of Gnucash would be the latest, though I suspect it would be more up to
date than what I now have.)



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Re: variable scheduled date

Adrien Monteleone
True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two versions back.

I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen.

Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 24, 2018, at 7:45 AM, Jean-David Beyer <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On 02/23/2018 06:40 PM, David Carlson wrote:
>> I am lost in this thread.  I thought that the point of Linux was to use
>> RPMs to do the dirty work of installing the software.  In fedora that would
>> be "yum install gnucash".  Are you saying that does not work?
>>
>> David C
>>
>
> Yes, it would not work because the server that would respond to yum is
> the one Red Hat maintains to support (in my case) RHEL6. Were I running
> RHEL7, it would get things from that. But in either case, Red Hat do not
> support Gnucash (and do not support VLC), so I would need to download
> the rpms from elsewhere. And it is not that easy because the rpm's will
> not install unless all the dependencies are already there. And to get
> them is almost impossible for most things.
>
> When I downloaded VLC, for example, I needed a few libraries. I found
> and downloaded some of those. They wanted more. Some of them needed
> other libraries and they did not exist. So I had to get rid of some and
> get other versions of those, and so on. It took over a week to get VLC
> to work. And I was trying to install VLC because some other video player
> (and mp3 player) stopped working.
>
> The only way I got GnuCash to work is that it is not quite as
> complicated as VLC, and the EPEL project has Gnucash in it. They do not
> upgrade it though. They have a version that works, and that is that. The
> EPEL for Gnucash in RHEL7 will not install in RHEL6, and I am not
> prepared to upgrade my RHEL6 system just to get the latest Gnucash.
> (Even were I to do that, there is no reason to believe that that version
> of Gnucash would be the latest, though I suspect it would be more up to
> date than what I now have.)
>
>
>
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Re: variable scheduled date

Ronal B Morse-2
Jean-David:  Does Red Hat have a virtual machine manager available for
RHEL 6? I had a similar problem some years ago when I was tied to Debian
Stable. My solution was to create a virtual machine running Debian
Testing which supported newer versions of the applications I wanted to
use.  Took care of dependencies without disturbing the integrity of the
host machine.

RBM


On 02/24/2018 09:48 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

> True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two versions back.
>
> I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen.
>
> Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
>> On Feb 24, 2018, at 7:45 AM, Jean-David Beyer <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> On 02/23/2018 06:40 PM, David Carlson wrote:
>>> I am lost in this thread.  I thought that the point of Linux was to use
>>> RPMs to do the dirty work of installing the software.  In fedora that would
>>> be "yum install gnucash".  Are you saying that does not work?
>>>
>>> David C
>>>
>> Yes, it would not work because the server that would respond to yum is
>> the one Red Hat maintains to support (in my case) RHEL6. Were I running
>> RHEL7, it would get things from that. But in either case, Red Hat do not
>> support Gnucash (and do not support VLC), so I would need to download
>> the rpms from elsewhere. And it is not that easy because the rpm's will
>> not install unless all the dependencies are already there. And to get
>> them is almost impossible for most things.
>>
>> When I downloaded VLC, for example, I needed a few libraries. I found
>> and downloaded some of those. They wanted more. Some of them needed
>> other libraries and they did not exist. So I had to get rid of some and
>> get other versions of those, and so on. It took over a week to get VLC
>> to work. And I was trying to install VLC because some other video player
>> (and mp3 player) stopped working.
>>
>> The only way I got GnuCash to work is that it is not quite as
>> complicated as VLC, and the EPEL project has Gnucash in it. They do not
>> upgrade it though. They have a version that works, and that is that. The
>> EPEL for Gnucash in RHEL7 will not install in RHEL6, and I am not
>> prepared to upgrade my RHEL6 system just to get the latest Gnucash.
>> (Even were I to do that, there is no reason to believe that that version
>> of Gnucash would be the latest, though I suspect it would be more up to
>> date than what I now have.)
>>
>>
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Re: variable scheduled date

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Adrien,

Adrien Monteleone <[hidden email]> writes:

> True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two
> versions back.
>
> I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing
> ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in
> dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They
> can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen.
>
> Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL.

RHEL is a great server platform.
It SUCKS as a desktop platform.
I would question why Jean-David chose it for a desktop, because it's
really not designed for that.  It is designed for long-term stability,
which is exactly counter to being able to frequently upgrade to new
software.

Besides, who keeps (desktop) computers for 10 years?  I refresh my
laptop every 3.

> Regards,
> Adrien

-derek

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Re: variable scheduled date

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How could I forget about servers?

True, 10 year stability is a plus for that case.

As for keeping computers that long, my laptop is a 2007 model.(to be fair, it’s a Mac and not relevant to the distro choice issue)

Various family members have a smattering of desktops from the very early 2000s, most of them 32bit. They still run fine. (I’ve given them new life with various *nix flavors)

A client still has four desktops from the late 90s that we ‘upgraded’ with Pentium IIIs and *doubled* the RAM to 1GB. (they were running Lubuntu until that got too bloated and now run Debian with LXDE)

I’ve even rescued an old Compaq Laptop with a K6, and an IMB PI with 86MB! of RAM with an old Puppy flavor.

The two sticking points that are making old hardware tough to keep running don’t have anything to do with the hardware. First, the OS vendors are dropping 32bit images so change is forced and decent distro choices getting slimmer. (mind you, these aren’t hackers using these things and those users obviously aren’t keen on change) Second, most of these users need a decent, safe and secure browser. (which have also dropped 32bit support) That more than anything is going to force them to change hardware. If it weren’t for the bloat of both browsers and websites, those machines would probably continue to function just fine for several more years. (and might still as long as they aren’t connected to the internet for anything other than e-mail)

But I digress as this is all far from the original topic.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 26, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Derek Atkins <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Adrien,
>
> Adrien Monteleone <[hidden email]> writes:
>
>> True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two
>> versions back.
>>
>> I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing
>> ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in
>> dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They
>> can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen.
>>
>> Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL.
>
> RHEL is a great server platform.
> It SUCKS as a desktop platform.
> I would question why Jean-David chose it for a desktop, because it's
> really not designed for that.  It is designed for long-term stability,
> which is exactly counter to being able to frequently upgrade to new
> software.
>
> Besides, who keeps (desktop) computers for 10 years?  I refresh my
> laptop every 3.
>
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>
> -derek
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Re: variable scheduled date

Ronal B Morse-2
Sounds to me like Jean-David is looking for something like a flatpack or
snap...a complete self-contained installable that brings it's
dependencies with it and runs in a sandbox or other self-contained
userspace.

But, RHEL 6 doesn't support flatpack or snaps so that's not a solution,
either.

RBM


On 02/26/2018 09:25 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

> How could I forget about servers?
>
> True, 10 year stability is a plus for that case.
>
> As for keeping computers that long, my laptop is a 2007 model.(to be fair, it’s a Mac and not relevant to the distro choice issue)
>
> Various family members have a smattering of desktops from the very early 2000s, most of them 32bit. They still run fine. (I’ve given them new life with various *nix flavors)
>
> A client still has four desktops from the late 90s that we ‘upgraded’ with Pentium IIIs and *doubled* the RAM to 1GB. (they were running Lubuntu until that got too bloated and now run Debian with LXDE)
>
> I’ve even rescued an old Compaq Laptop with a K6, and an IMB PI with 86MB! of RAM with an old Puppy flavor.
>
> The two sticking points that are making old hardware tough to keep running don’t have anything to do with the hardware. First, the OS vendors are dropping 32bit images so change is forced and decent distro choices getting slimmer. (mind you, these aren’t hackers using these things and those users obviously aren’t keen on change) Second, most of these users need a decent, safe and secure browser. (which have also dropped 32bit support) That more than anything is going to force them to change hardware. If it weren’t for the bloat of both browsers and websites, those machines would probably continue to function just fine for several more years. (and might still as long as they aren’t connected to the internet for anything other than e-mail)
>
> But I digress as this is all far from the original topic.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
>> On Feb 26, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Derek Atkins <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Adrien,
>>
>> Adrien Monteleone <[hidden email]> writes:
>>
>>> True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two
>>> versions back.
>>>
>>> I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing
>>> ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in
>>> dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They
>>> can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen.
>>>
>>> Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL.
>> RHEL is a great server platform.
>> It SUCKS as a desktop platform.
>> I would question why Jean-David chose it for a desktop, because it's
>> really not designed for that.  It is designed for long-term stability,
>> which is exactly counter to being able to frequently upgrade to new
>> software.
>>
>> Besides, who keeps (desktop) computers for 10 years?  I refresh my
>> laptop every 3.
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Adrien
>> -derek
>>
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Re: variable scheduled date

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On 02/26/2018 08:29 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:

> Adrien Monteleone <[hidden email]> writes:
>
>> True, the version in EPEL7 is 2.6.18, one version back, soon to be two
>> versions back.
>>
>> I too was wondering the issue, now I see that essentially, nothing
>> ever gets back-ported for RHEL, so newer RPMs can’t pull in
>> dependencies because they don’t exist in the older repositories. They
>> can provide 10 years of support, because it’s essentially frozen.
>>
>> Your experience and explanation makes me glad I never tried RHEL.
> RHEL is a great server platform.
> It SUCKS as a desktop platform.

> I would question why Jean-David chose it for a desktop, because it's
> really not designed for that.  It is designed for long-term stability,
> which is exactly counter to being able to frequently upgrade to new
> software.

I mainly chose RHEL for my desktop when it was running servers as well
as the usual desktop applications. I had been running the regular Red
Hat Unix versions up to 7.3. I tried Red Hat 9 and it did not run IBM
DB2 very well, that I needed for database work. I started tunning RHEL3
on one machine and upgraded another machine to CentOS 4.

One reason I keep running RHEL is just because I cannot stand having to
update Fedora systems so often. The minor updates are usually OK, but
when a new release comes out, it takes way too much time to install and
configure it. It inly takes a couple of hours to install the software,
but it usually takes me about a month to get it all configured
correctly. And when the releases are now SELinux, getting that right ...
. Well if you have done it, you know what I mean. And if you have not,
good luck to you.
>
> Besides, who keeps (desktop) computers for 10 years?  I refresh my
> laptop every 3.
>
I keep them that long. I kept my first machine 14 years, but after four
years, I added a second computer and networked them together, and after
another four years, I built yet another and kept it until the power
supply exploded (at about years old). Until that happened, it was
working just fine but by then the power supply was so obsolete that I
could not find any with the right power and the right connections.

I donated the oldest one to someone who used it for some parts (very
good dial-up modem when I no longer needed modems). The next one I
junked (dual 550 MHz Pentium III processors, 512 Megabytes RAM). I
thought about upping the RAM, but decided against that because those
processors were just too slow.I only kept it around because I had a
Windows XP license for it to do my taxes on it.

My current machine is 64-bits, has a 4-core Xeon processor, 8 GBytes
RAM. The mother board will take two Xeon processors, 512 GBytes RAM. At
one time, I might have needed that, but right now I sure do not.

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