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Re: Help on US Tax Form 8825 (Edoardo Tirtarahardja)

Alex Aycinena-2
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> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 11:59:51 -0400
> Subject: Help on US Tax Form 8825
> Why GNU Cash can't classify an expenses to be reported in US Federal Tax
> >From 8825 Line 14 (Depreciation)? TurboTax shows that the annual
> depreciation shall be reported in this line, but I can't set the Tax
> Report Option as that line is not available.
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The US Income Tax reporting and exporting-to-txf capabilities in gnucash
are based on txf codes that have not been maintained for many years. As of
the last report I have of txf codes, dated 2004, no code exists for Form
8825 line 14, while at that time there were codes for the other line items
on that Form, so I couldn't include it in the system. If you are aware of a
txf code for this line, please let me know and I can add it.

I would like at some time to replace the existing tax reporting mechanism
with a more robust and extensible one that can be updated and possibly be
used for other taxing jurisdictions (i.e., other countries). But I am not
going to do that for some time because I have other higher priority items
that I want to work on first.

Meanwhile, you can still set up the accounts to capture the information. It
just won't show up on the tax report or be included in any txf exports you
may feed into TurboTax. You will have to enter those few items directly
into TurboTax via their GUI based on other gnucash reports.

If you have any updated information on the codes TurboTax uses for
interfaces, I would very much appreciate getting it. I don't have access to
a recent copy since I don't personally use it.

Regards,

Alex
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Re: Help on US Tax Form 8825 (Edoardo Tirtarahardja)

Edoardo Tirtarahardja
Hi Alex,

I don't have any idea what is the TXF code for those lines. I've googled
and the TurboTax is no longer posting the TXF specification. I can't find
any in the internet.

Surely some one knows how to get the latest TXF spec.

//Edo

On 2017-08-09 15:03, Alex Aycinena wrote:

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>     From: Edoardo Tirtarahardja <[hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>     To: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>     Cc:
>     Bcc:
>     Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 11:59:51 -0400
>     Subject: Help on US Tax Form 8825
>     Why GNU Cash can't classify an expenses to be reported in US Federal Tax
>     >From 8825 Line 14 (Depreciation)? TurboTax shows that the annual
>     depreciation shall be reported in this line, but I can't set the Tax
>     Report Option as that line is not available.
>
>
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>
> The US Income Tax reporting and exporting-to-txf capabilities in gnucash
> are based on txf codes that have not been maintained for many years. As of
> the last report I have of txf codes, dated 2004, no code exists for Form
> 8825 line 14, while at that time there were codes for the other line items
> on that Form, so I couldn't include it in the system. If you are aware of
> a txf code for this line, please let me know and I can add it.
>
> I would like at some time to replace the existing tax reporting mechanism
> with a more robust and extensible one that can be updated and possibly be
> used for other taxing jurisdictions (i.e., other countries). But I am not
> going to do that for some time because I have other higher priority items
> that I want to work on first.
>
> Meanwhile, you can still set up the accounts to capture the information.
> It just won't show up on the tax report or be included in any txf exports
> you may feed into TurboTax. You will have to enter those few items
> directly into TurboTax via their GUI based on other gnucash reports.
>
> If you have any updated information on the codes TurboTax uses for
> interfaces, I would very much appreciate getting it. I don't have access
> to a recent copy since I don't personally use it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
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Re: Help on US Tax Form 8825 (Edoardo Tirtarahardja)

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Edo,

On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Edoardo Tirtarahardja <[hidden email]
> wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> I don't have any idea what is the TXF code for those lines. I've googled
> and the TurboTax is no longer posting the TXF specification. I can't find
> any in the internet.
>
> Surely some one knows how to get the latest TXF spec.
>
> //Edo
>
> On 2017-08-09 15:03, Alex Aycinena wrote:
> >
> >
> >     ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >     From: Edoardo Tirtarahardja <[hidden email]
> >     <mailto:[hidden email]>>
> >     To: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
> >     Cc:
> >     Bcc:
> >     Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 11:59:51 -0400
> >     Subject: Help on US Tax Form 8825
> >     Why GNU Cash can't classify an expenses to be reported in US Federal
> Tax
> >     >From 8825 Line 14 (Depreciation)? TurboTax shows that the annual
> >     depreciation shall be reported in this line, but I can't set the Tax
> >     Report Option as that line is not available.
> >
> >
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     gnucash-user mailing list
> >     [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
> >     https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
> >     <https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user>
> >
> >
> > The US Income Tax reporting and exporting-to-txf capabilities in gnucash
> > are based on txf codes that have not been maintained for many years. As
> of
> > the last report I have of txf codes, dated 2004, no code exists for Form
> > 8825 line 14, while at that time there were codes for the other line
> items
> > on that Form, so I couldn't include it in the system. If you are aware of
> > a txf code for this line, please let me know and I can add it.
> >
> > I would like at some time to replace the existing tax reporting mechanism
> > with a more robust and extensible one that can be updated and possibly be
> > used for other taxing jurisdictions (i.e., other countries). But I am not
> > going to do that for some time because I have other higher priority items
> > that I want to work on first.
> >
> > Meanwhile, you can still set up the accounts to capture the information.
> > It just won't show up on the tax report or be included in any txf exports
> > you may feed into TurboTax. You will have to enter those few items
> > directly into TurboTax via their GUI based on other gnucash reports.
> >
> > If you have any updated information on the codes TurboTax uses for
> > interfaces, I would very much appreciate getting it. I don't have access
> > to a recent copy since I don't personally use it.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Alex
>

That's the point of my reply - I believe there is no later TXF spec. It has
been abandoned by it's original creator, Intuit, in favor of a proprietary
solution. That's why we can't do anything.

Alex
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