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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] Accounts do not appear in budget

Adrien Monteleone-2
Another case of something recently being an issue all of a sudden...

Perhaps changing the default to include *all* accounts is in order.

Certainly I can see the use case of someone setting up GnuCash for the first time and one of the 1st items in their workflow being to create a budget before they enter any transactions. I would say that is more likely than someone using GnuCash for an entire year before diving into the budget module, which is the apparent assumption based on how it works.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 5, 2018, at 3:24 AM, Adrien Monteleone <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Do you have any transactions in those accounts yet?
>
> If not, they won’t show up by default.
>
> You can change this setting in View > Filter By... > Other > Show unused accounts.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Sadhna True <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> I am a new Gnucash user, and I am using the software to manage personal finances. I have previously used QuickBooks to do bookkeeping for a small company.
>>
>> In Gnucash, I created my accounts. When I create a new budget, a new tab opens, but none of the accounts I created appear in the budget. What am I doing wrong?
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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] Accounts do not appear in budget

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Another option would be for someone (other than myself, because I never have used, liked or understood the budgets module) to write some documentation for the budgets.

A third option, even less likely, is for someone who cares to go in and try and make sense of the budget features, and rewrite the functionality in a way that people can understand and use. I say less likely because this area has been deficient for a long time without any interest in improving it developing anywhere.

A fourth option, more radical but based on the reality of number three, is to remove this module altogether, since it is neither being fixed nor improved. Keeping it around suggests to new users that it has any support behind it, which is not the case.I

David

On December 5, 2018, at 2:58 PM, Adrien Monteleone <[hidden email]> wrote:

Another case of something recently being an issue all of a sudden...

Perhaps changing the default to include *all* accounts is in order.

Certainly I can see the use case of someone setting up GnuCash for the first time and one of the 1st items in their workflow being to create a budget before they enter any transactions. I would say that is more likely than someone using GnuCash for an entire year before diving into the budget module, which is the apparent assumption based on how it works.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 5, 2018, at 3:24 AM, Adrien Monteleone <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Do you have any transactions in those accounts yet?
>
> If not, they won’t show up by default.
>
> You can change this setting in View > Filter By... > Other > Show unused accounts.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Sadhna True <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I am a new Gnucash user, and I am using the software to manage personal finances. I have previously used QuickBooks to do bookkeeping for a small company.
>>
>> In Gnucash, I created my accounts. When I create a new budget, a new tab opens, but none of the accounts I created appear in the budget. What am I doing wrong?
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Re: [GNC-dev] [GNC] Accounts do not appear in budget

Christopher Lam
Agreed -- IMHO the current budget mechanism is a bad hack.

There are better ones e.g. https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Zero-Sum_Budgeting

Test implementation available at
https://github.com/christopherlam/gnucash/tree/master-envelope-budgeting

On 5/12/18 5:38 pm, D via gnucash-devel wrote:

> Another option would be for someone (other than myself, because I never have used, liked or understood the budgets module) to write some documentation for the budgets.
>
> A third option, even less likely, is for someone who cares to go in and try and make sense of the budget features, and rewrite the functionality in a way that people can understand and use. I say less likely because this area has been deficient for a long time without any interest in improving it developing anywhere.
>
> A fourth option, more radical but based on the reality of number three, is to remove this module altogether, since it is neither being fixed nor improved. Keeping it around suggests to new users that it has any support behind it, which is not the case.I
>
> David
>
> On December 5, 2018, at 2:58 PM, Adrien Monteleone <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Another case of something recently being an issue all of a sudden...
>
> Perhaps changing the default to include *all* accounts is in order.
>
> Certainly I can see the use case of someone setting up GnuCash for the first time and one of the 1st items in their workflow being to create a budget before they enter any transactions. I would say that is more likely than someone using GnuCash for an entire year before diving into the budget module, which is the apparent assumption based on how it works.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
>> On Dec 5, 2018, at 3:24 AM, Adrien Monteleone <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Do you have any transactions in those accounts yet?
>>
>> If not, they won’t show up by default.
>>
>> You can change this setting in View > Filter By... > Other > Show unused accounts.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>>
>>> On Dec 4, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Sadhna True <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am a new Gnucash user, and I am using the software to manage personal finances. I have previously used QuickBooks to do bookkeeping for a small company.
>>>
>>> In Gnucash, I created my accounts. When I create a new budget, a new tab opens, but none of the accounts I created appear in the budget. What am I doing wrong?
>>> _______________________________________________
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