Gnucash Mobile Planing

[Ngewi Fet]

Hello everyone,
Since this is the community bonding period for the GSOC,
I will like to share my ideas so far for the Gnucash Android Application
(hereinafter referred to as 'Gnucash Mobile').

The planing document is available at this link:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BGRBPlT7Iq-_UmncmLO9vSsnNrGj2g7Xjo1qazDggWg/edit

The GUI prototypes are still from the original proposal and will be updated
later.
The whole document is still under development.

I will appreciate any feedback or comments to the ideas put forth. Thanks.

Cheers,
Ngewi
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[Miguel Moura]

Hi,

Good idea, it's something that it's needed in this days of mobile
computing, specially for the smartphone area.

After reading the document, i only have two coments,

1) consider only the android market in the beginning is good,but i think
you should consider the all market, so development in a multiplataform,
like java or python, will be an advantage in the long term.

2) in transfer the data, ofx file copy from mobile device to pc, and them
import to gnucash desktop, it also be an option to consider IMHO.


Miguel

2012/5/4 Ngewi Fet <[hidden email]>

> Hello everyone,
> Since this is the community bonding period for the GSOC,
> I will like to share my ideas so far for the Gnucash Android Application
> (hereinafter referred to as 'Gnucash Mobile').
>
> The planing document is available at this link:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BGRBPlT7Iq-_UmncmLO9vSsnNrGj2g7Xjo1qazDggWg/edit
>
> The GUI prototypes are still from the original proposal and will be updated
> later.
> The whole document is still under development.
>
> I will appreciate any feedback or comments to the ideas put forth. Thanks.
>
> Cheers,
> Ngewi
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[John Ralls-2]

On May 5, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Miguel Moura wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Good idea, it's something that it's needed in this days of mobile
> computing, specially for the smartphone area.
>
> After reading the document, i only have two coments,
>
> 1) consider only the android market in the beginning is good,but i think
> you should consider the all market, so development in a multiplataform,
> like java or python, will be an advantage in the long term.

Indeed, but Ngewi is a GSoC student who is doing this for his project. The scope is necessarily limited to what he can accomplish in 10 weeks.

Unfortunately, there's not really much in the way of portability for mobile apps. Android apps must be done in Java. There's a C portability library for handling non-gui stuff, but its scope is extremely limited.

iOS (Apple's mobile OS) doesn't at present support Java and encourages Objective-C++ (which means in practice that if LLVM can compile it, it's good). It's possible to write Python applications for iOS, but they'll be so heavily dependent upon a UIKit library that one might as well write it in Objective-C.

>
> 2) in transfer the data, ofx file copy from mobile device to pc, and them
> import to gnucash desktop, it also be an option to consider IMHO.

Uh, that's exactly what Ngewi is proposing.

Regards,
John Ralls


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[Cristian Marchi]

I've read the document and I've nothing to add. I like the idea to use
email to share the OFX file. As a translator I've question: will the app
be translatable too?

Can I post your doc on the GnuCash google+ page? and can I link your g+
profile page to the post?

Thanks
Cristian

Il 04/05/2012 19:18, Ngewi Fet ha scritto:

> Hello everyone,
> Since this is the community bonding period for the GSOC,
> I will like to share my ideas so far for the Gnucash Android Application
> (hereinafter referred to as 'Gnucash Mobile').
>
> The planing document is available at this link:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BGRBPlT7Iq-_UmncmLO9vSsnNrGj2g7Xjo1qazDggWg/edit
>
> The GUI prototypes are still from the original proposal and will be updated
> later.
> The whole document is still under development.
>
> I will appreciate any feedback or comments to the ideas put forth. Thanks.
>
> Cheers,
> Ngewi
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
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> .
>

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[Muslim Chochlov]

Hi,


> 1) consider only the android market in the beginning is good,but i think
> you should consider the all market, so development in a multiplataform,
> like java or python, will be an advantage in the long term.
>
> As John said above this is out of scope for Ngewi's project. Actually we
were discussing the possibility of using multiplatform mobile development
frameworks
like Appcelerator Titanium and others. But it seems they bring more
challenges than easy solutions.


> 2) in transfer the data, ofx file copy from mobile device to pc, and them
> import to gnucash desktop, it also be an option to consider IMHO.
>
> The application will allow user to save ofx file to sd card and/or export
it via email. So that users without email account will be able to get the
file via usb and those who like more "software" ways via email. Having
these two options will make the application more user-friendly and I think
this should be enough for the beginning. Cloud drive is a great fresh way
of sharing files, but we decided to keep the project as simple as we can to
successfully accomplish it by the end of the summer. Though cloud sharing
would be a great feature to add later.

Regarding the application localization, it is also out of scope for the
summer. However, Ngewi could develop the application keeping in mind that a
possible localization could be done later [1].

[1]
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/resources/localization.html#strategies

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Muslim Chochlov
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[Ngewi Fet]

Hi all,
The application will definitely be developed with future localization in
mind.
Android separates the string resources, so it should not be difficult to
later on translate and incorporate them in the app.

Cheers,
Ngewi

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Muslim Chochlov
<[hidden email]>wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>> 1) consider only the android market in the beginning is good,but i think
>> you should consider the all market, so development in a multiplataform,
>> like java or python, will be an advantage in the long term.
>>
>> As John said above this is out of scope for Ngewi's project. Actually we
> were discussing the possibility of using multiplatform mobile development
> frameworks
> like Appcelerator Titanium and others. But it seems they bring more
> challenges than easy solutions.
>
>
>> 2) in transfer the data, ofx file copy from mobile device to pc, and them
>> import to gnucash desktop, it also be an option to consider IMHO.
>>
>> The application will allow user to save ofx file to sd card and/or export
> it via email. So that users without email account will be able to get the
> file via usb and those who like more "software" ways via email. Having
> these two options will make the application more user-friendly and I think
> this should be enough for the beginning. Cloud drive is a great fresh way
> of sharing files, but we decided to keep the project as simple as we can to
> successfully accomplish it by the end of the summer. Though cloud sharing
> would be a great feature to add later.
>
> Regarding the application localization, it is also out of scope for the
> summer. However, Ngewi could develop the application keeping in mind that a
> possible localization could be done later [1].
>
> [1]
> http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/resources/localization.html#strategies
>
> Regards,
> Muslim Chochlov
>

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[Ngewi Fet]

Hi Christian,
The document is still currently undergoing iteration and is subject to
change without notice.
It should not be treated as a final design specification for the Android
app.
Other than that, I have no problem with you linking to the document.
You may also link to my Google+ profile.

Cheers,
Ngewi

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Cristian Marchi <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I've read the document and I've nothing to add. I like the idea to use
> email to share the OFX file. As a translator I've question: will the app be
> translatable too?
>
> Can I post your doc on the GnuCash google+ page? and can I link your g+
> profile page to the post?
>
> Thanks
> Cristian
>
> Il 04/05/2012 19:18, Ngewi Fet ha scritto:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>> Since this is the community bonding period for the GSOC,
>> I will like to share my ideas so far for the Gnucash Android Application
>> (hereinafter referred to as 'Gnucash Mobile').
>>
>> The planing document is available at this link:
>> https://docs.google.com/**document/d/1BGRBPlT7Iq-_**
>> UmncmLO9vSsnNrGj2g7Xjo1qazDggW**g/edit<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BGRBPlT7Iq-_UmncmLO9vSsnNrGj2g7Xjo1qazDggWg/edit>
>>
>> The GUI prototypes are still from the original proposal and will be
>> updated
>> later.
>> The whole document is still under development.
>>
>> I will appreciate any feedback or comments to the ideas put forth. Thanks.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ngewi
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[Ngewi Fet]

Hello everyone,
I have updated the mockups in the document to better demonstrate what
Gnucash mobile might look like.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BGRBPlT7Iq-_UmncmLO9vSsnNrGj2g7Xjo1qazDggWg/edit?pli=1

Feedback is welcome.

Cheers,
Ngewi

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Ngewi Fet <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Christian,
> The document is still currently undergoing iteration and is subject to
> change without notice.
> It should not be treated as a final design specification for the Android
> app.
> Other than that, I have no problem with you linking to the document.
> You may also link to my Google+ profile.
>
> Cheers,
> Ngewi
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Cristian Marchi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I've read the document and I've nothing to add. I like the idea to use
>> email to share the OFX file. As a translator I've question: will the app be
>> translatable too?
>>
>> Can I post your doc on the GnuCash google+ page? and can I link your g+
>> profile page to the post?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Cristian
>>
>> Il 04/05/2012 19:18, Ngewi Fet ha scritto:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> Since this is the community bonding period for the GSOC,
>>> I will like to share my ideas so far for the Gnucash Android Application
>>> (hereinafter referred to as 'Gnucash Mobile').
>>>
>>> The planing document is available at this link:
>>> https://docs.google.com/**document/d/1BGRBPlT7Iq-_**
>>> UmncmLO9vSsnNrGj2g7Xjo1qazDggW**g/edit<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BGRBPlT7Iq-_UmncmLO9vSsnNrGj2g7Xjo1qazDggWg/edit>
>>>
>>> The GUI prototypes are still from the original proposal and will be
>>> updated
>>> later.
>>> The whole document is still under development.
>>>
>>> I will appreciate any feedback or comments to the ideas put forth.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ngewi
>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>> gnucash-devel mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/**mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel<https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>

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