Gnucash 2.4.9 wrong date format for locale? (OS X 10.6.8)

[prl]

Gnucash 2.4.9, OS X 10.6.8

I have Australia set for my locale (Region in OS X System
Preferences>Language & Text), and according to it, dates should be
d/mm/yy or dd/mm/yyyy in the formats that don't use the month name.
However, if GnuCash>Preferences>Date/Time is set to Locale, dates are
displayed (both in the preference panel and in registers) as mm/dd/yy.

If I set the date format to be UK in GnuCash>Preferences>Date/Time, I
get the date format I want, but hey, I'm not in the UK, and my correctly
set Locale/Region should work with GnuCash 2.4.9. It worked just fine in
GnuCash 2.4.8. When I run Terminal, the only locale-related environment
variable I find is LANG=en_AU.UTF-8.

Any other Snow Leopard (10.6.x) users in non-North American date format
areas having similar problems? Does Lion have similar problems? Windows
or Linux versions?

Peter

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[tjoen]

On Sun, 2012-01-22 at 17:07 +1100, prl wrote:

> Gnucash 2.4.9, OS X 10.6.8
>
> I have Australia set for my locale (Region in OS X System
> Preferences>Language & Text), and according to it, dates should be
> d/mm/yy or dd/mm/yyyy in the formats that don't use the month name.
> However, if GnuCash>Preferences>Date/Time is set to Locale, dates are
> displayed (both in the preference panel and in registers) as mm/dd/yy.
>
> If I set the date format to be UK in GnuCash>Preferences>Date/Time, I
> get the date format I want, but hey, I'm not in the UK, and my correctly
> set Locale/Region should work with GnuCash 2.4.9. It worked just fine in
> GnuCash 2.4.8. When I run Terminal, the only locale-related environment
> variable I find is LANG=en_AU.UTF-8.

So LC_TIME not set?

I grepped the sources, no d_fmt, only d_t_fmt

My glibc /usr/share/i18n/locales/ on Linux:
en_US d_t_fmt
"<U0025><U0061><U0020><U0025><U0064><U0020><U0025><U0062>
<U0020><U0025><U0059><U0020><U0025><U0072><U0020><U0025><U005A>"
en_GB d_t_fmt  
"<U0025><U0061><U0020><U0025><U0064><U0020><U0025><U0062>
<U0020><U0025><U0059><U0020><U0025><U0054><U0020><U0025><U005A>"
en_AU d_t_fmt
"<U0025><U0061><U0020><U0025><U0064><U0020><U0025><U0062>
<U0020><U0025><U0059><U0020><U0025><U0054><U0020><U0025><U005A>"

AU and GB are the same, US differs
I have not much more to help

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[prl]

On 22/01/12 22:36, tjoen wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-01-22 at 17:07 +1100, prl wrote:
>> ... It worked just fine in
>> GnuCash 2.4.8. When I run Terminal, the only locale-related environment
>> variable I find is LANG=en_AU.UTF-8.
> So LC_TIME not set?
>
> ...
>
No, LC_TIME isn't set when I run Terminal, but I don't know where it
picks up its environment from. But the OS X date/time formats and locale
weren't changed when I upgraded from 2.4.8 to 2.4.9.

Peter

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[titusn]

prl wrote

Gnucash 2.4.9, OS X 10.6.8

I have Australia set for my locale (Region in OS X System
Preferences>Language & Text), and according to it, dates should be
d/mm/yy or dd/mm/yyyy in the formats that don't use the month name.
However, if GnuCash>Preferences>Date/Time is set to Locale, dates are
displayed (both in the preference panel and in registers) as mm/dd/yy.

If I set the date format to be UK in GnuCash>Preferences>Date/Time, I
get the date format I want, but hey, I'm not in the UK, and my correctly
set Locale/Region should work with GnuCash 2.4.9. It worked just fine in
GnuCash 2.4.8. When I run Terminal, the only locale-related environment
variable I find is LANG=en_AU.UTF-8.

Any other Snow Leopard (10.6.x) users in non-North American date format
areas having similar problems? Does Lion have similar problems? Windows
or Linux versions?

Peter

Gnucash 2.4.11, OS X 10.6.8 (and 10.7.4)

Dear Peter,

I don't know whether you already solved your problem, but I have the same trouble with the Dutch locale. It worked correctly under Snow Leopard in Gnucash 2.4.8, then I tried 2.4.10 on another system which is running Lion and the same files that were ok on the first system showed the wrong dates. I continued to install 2.4.11 on the first system and voila, all the dates changed back to the default US style. I'm using the following defaults:

{
    AppleLanguages =     (
        nl,
        en
    );
    AppleLocale = "nl_NL";
}

(see http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Locale_Settings#Changing_the_Language_on_OSX on how to set these)

Hope anyone will pick this up, I will report it on the bugtracker, too.

Kind regards,

Titus Nachbauer

PS: as this is my first post to this list, please tell me if I made any netiquette mistake.

[prl]

Hi, Titus.

I'm still having the same problem with the date when I set GnuCash
Preferences>Date/Time>Date Format to "Locale". I'm running OSX Lion
10.7.4 and GnuCash 2.4.11. It's not the stored dates changing, it's
simply the way that they are displayed.

As I said in my original post, I can work around the problem by setting
the date format to UK, but Australia stopped being (a colony of) the UK
in 1901. It seems something's a bit slow on the uptake.

You can likewise work around the problem by using either UK format for
dd/mm/yyyy or Europe format for dd.mm.yyyy.

But of course GnuCash should be using the correct date format for the
locale.

And no, I don't think you've committed any netiquette faux pas.

Cheers,
Peter

On 26/07/12 03:22, titusn wrote:

> prl wrote
>> Gnucash 2.4.9, OS X 10.6.8
>>
>> I have Australia set for my locale (Region in OS X System
>> Preferences>Language & Text), and according to it, dates should be
>> d/mm/yy or dd/mm/yyyy in the formats that don't use the month name.
>> However, if GnuCash>Preferences>Date/Time is set to Locale, dates are
>> displayed (both in the preference panel and in registers) as mm/dd/yy.
>>
>> If I set the date format to be UK in GnuCash>Preferences>Date/Time, I
>> get the date format I want, but hey, I'm not in the UK, and my correctly
>> set Locale/Region should work with GnuCash 2.4.9. It worked just fine in
>> GnuCash 2.4.8. When I run Terminal, the only locale-related environment
>> variable I find is LANG=en_AU.UTF-8.
>>
>> Any other Snow Leopard (10.6.x) users in non-North American date format
>> areas having similar problems? Does Lion have similar problems? Windows
>> or Linux versions?
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
> Gnucash 2.4.11, OS X 10.6.8 (and 10.7.4)
>
> Dear Peter,
>
> I don't know whether you already solved your problem, but I have the same
> trouble with the Dutch locale. It worked correctly under Snow Leopard in
> Gnucash 2.4.8, then I tried 2.4.10 on another system which is running Lion
> and the same files that were ok on the first system showed the wrong dates.
> I continued to install 2.4.11 on the first system and voila, all the dates
> changed back to the default US style. I'm using the following defaults:
>
> {
>      AppleLanguages =     (
>          nl,
>          en
>      );
>      AppleLocale = "nl_NL";
> }
>
> (see
> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Locale_Settings#Changing_the_Language_on_OSX
> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Locale_Settings#Changing_the_Language_on_OSX
> on how to set these)
>
> Hope anyone will pick this up, I will report it on the bugtracker, too.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Titus Nachbauer
>
> PS: as this is my first post to this list, please tell me if I made any
> netiquette mistake.
>
>
>
>
>
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[titusn]

Hi Peter,

Thanks for the swift reply. The workarounds do not seem to be working for me. It just keeps defaulting to the US format regardless of what I chose in the properties dialog. Luckily one of the programmers could reproduce this behaviour and is already tracking the bug. So hopefully it will be solved in a newer version.

Kind regards,

Titus

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 2:28 AM, prl [via GnuCash] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi, Titus.

I'm still having the same problem with the date when I set GnuCash
Preferences>Date/Time>Date Format to "Locale". I'm running OSX Lion
10.7.4 and GnuCash 2.4.11. It's not the stored dates changing, it's
simply the way that they are displayed.

As I said in my original post, I can work around the problem by setting
the date format to UK, but Australia stopped being (a colony of) the UK
in 1901. It seems something's a bit slow on the uptake.

You can likewise work around the problem by using either UK format for
dd/mm/yyyy or Europe format for dd.mm.yyyy.

But of course GnuCash should be using the correct date format for the
locale.

And no, I don't think you've committed any netiquette faux pas.

Cheers,
Peter

On 26/07/12 03:22, titusn wrote:

> prl wrote
>> Gnucash 2.4.9, OS X 10.6.8
>>
>> I have Australia set for my locale (Region in OS X System
>> Preferences>Language & Text), and according to it, dates should be
>> d/mm/yy or dd/mm/yyyy in the formats that don't use the month name.
>> However, if GnuCash>Preferences>Date/Time is set to Locale, dates are
>> displayed (both in the preference panel and in registers) as mm/dd/yy.
>>
>> If I set the date format to be UK in GnuCash>Preferences>Date/Time, I
>> get the date format I want, but hey, I'm not in the UK, and my correctly
>> set Locale/Region should work with GnuCash 2.4.9. It worked just fine in
>> GnuCash 2.4.8. When I run Terminal, the only locale-related environment
>> variable I find is LANG=en_AU.UTF-8.
>>
>> Any other Snow Leopard (10.6.x) users in non-North American date format
>> areas having similar problems? Does Lion have similar problems? Windows
>> or Linux versions?
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
> Gnucash 2.4.11, OS X 10.6.8 (and 10.7.4)
>
> Dear Peter,
>
> I don't know whether you already solved your problem, but I have the same
> trouble with the Dutch locale. It worked correctly under Snow Leopard in
> Gnucash 2.4.8, then I tried 2.4.10 on another system which is running Lion
> and the same files that were ok on the first system showed the wrong dates.
> I continued to install 2.4.11 on the first system and voila, all the dates
> changed back to the default US style. I'm using the following defaults:
>
> {
>      AppleLanguages =     (
>          nl,
>          en
>      );
>      AppleLocale = "nl_NL";
> }
>
> (see
> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Locale_Settings#Changing_the_Language_on_OSX

> http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Locale_Settings#Changing_the_Language_on_OSX

> on how to set these)
>
> Hope anyone will pick this up, I will report it on the bugtracker, too.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Titus Nachbauer
>
> PS: as this is my first post to this list, please tell me if I made any
> netiquette mistake.
>
>
>
>
>

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[tjoen]

titusn schreef op do 26-07-2012 om 01:11 [-0700]:
> Thanks for the swift reply. The workarounds do not seem to be working for
> me. It just keeps defaulting to the US format regardless of what I chose in
> the properties dialog. Luckily one of the programmers could reproduce this
> behaviour and is already tracking the bug. So hopefully it will be solved
> in a newer version.

I am not familiar with OS X. Is the libc like glibc?
i.e. does it have the file /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_AU ?
And do you have the tool localedef ?
Then perhaps it is possible to adjust it.

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[prl]

On 27/07/12 03:10, tjoen wrote:
> titusn schreef op do 26-07-2012 om 01:11 [-0700]:
>> Thanks for the swift reply. The workarounds do not seem to be working for
>> me. It just keeps defaulting to the US format regardless of what I chose in
>> the properties dialog. Luckily one of the programmers could reproduce this
>> behaviour and is already tracking the bug. So hopefully it will be solved
>> in a newer version.
> I am not familiar with OS X. Is the libc like glibc?
> i.e. does it have the file /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_AU ?
No, OS X doesn't have /usr/share/i18n/locales; its locales are in
/usr/share/locale. And while that locale setting would be appropriate
for me, it wouldn't be appropriate for titusn, who is in the
Netherlands, not in Australia. His locale is set to NL_nl and according
to its locale file, his dates should be displayed as 31-7-2012 or
31-07-2012.
> And do you have the tool localedef ?
> Then perhaps it is possible to adjust it.
Locale setup in OS X is normally done using System Preferences>Language
& Text>Formats. My setup shows that the locale setting for dates that
don't use the month name is 31/07/2012 or 31/7/2012, depending on
whether leading zeros are required in the dates. It seems to be just
GnuCash that gets this wrong. Titusn's locale setup also appears to me
to be correct. I have tested the Dutch/Netherlands locale on my Mac, and
I can verify that GnuCash uses the date format 07/31/2012 when it's set
to Locale, and not the format it should be using for that
Dutch/Netherlands, 31-07-2012. However, unlike titusn, I can still get
both the Gnucash Date/Time preferences UK (31/07/2012) or Europe
(31.07.2012) date formats to work when the machine locale setting is
Dutch/Netherlands, while he doesn't seem to be able to get either to work.

Surely the use of GnuCash on OS X beyond the USA and South Africa (which
also appears to use 07/31/2010) is widespread enough that this bug
affects more people than just titusn and me!

Peter
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[John Ralls-2]

On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:09 PM, prl wrote:

> On 27/07/12 03:10, tjoen wrote:
>> titusn schreef op do 26-07-2012 om 01:11 [-0700]:
>>> Thanks for the swift reply. The workarounds do not seem to be working for
>>> me. It just keeps defaulting to the US format regardless of what I chose in
>>> the properties dialog. Luckily one of the programmers could reproduce this
>>> behaviour and is already tracking the bug. So hopefully it will be solved
>>> in a newer version.
>> I am not familiar with OS X. Is the libc like glibc?
>> i.e. does it have the file /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_AU ?
> No, OS X doesn't have /usr/share/i18n/locales; its locales are in /usr/share/locale. And while that locale setting would be appropriate for me, it wouldn't be appropriate for titusn, who is in the Netherlands, not in Australia. His locale is set to NL_nl and according to its locale file, his dates should be displayed as 31-7-2012 or 31-07-2012.
>> And do you have the tool localedef ?
>> Then perhaps it is possible to adjust it.
> Locale setup in OS X is normally done using System Preferences>Language & Text>Formats. My setup shows that the locale setting for dates that don't use the month name is 31/07/2012 or 31/7/2012, depending on whether leading zeros are required in the dates. It seems to be just GnuCash that gets this wrong. Titusn's locale setup also appears to me to be correct. I have tested the Dutch/Netherlands locale on my Mac, and I can verify that GnuCash uses the date format 07/31/2012 when it's set to Locale, and not the format it should be using for that Dutch/Netherlands, 31-07-2012. However, unlike titusn, I can still get both the Gnucash Date/Time preferences UK (31/07/2012) or Europe (31.07.2012) date formats to work when the machine locale setting is Dutch/Netherlands, while he doesn't seem to be able to get either to work.
>
> Surely the use of GnuCash on OS X beyond the USA and South Africa (which also appears to use 07/31/2010) is widespread enough that this bug affects more people than just titusn and me!

South Africa? Titus said that he's using nl_NL, which isn't South Africa.

Anyway, I can confirm that whatever changed, changed between the 2.4.8 and 2.4.9, but after testing new builds I can also say that the change isn't in Gnucash. It's in a dependency package; I just need to figure out which one.
In the meantime, you can set LC_TIME to your locale (en_AU for you and nl_NL for Titus) in Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash by adding the line

export LC_TIME=en_AU

anywhere before the last line.

Regards,
John Ralls



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[titusn]

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:33 AM, John Ralls <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On Jul 26, 2012, at 4:09 PM, prl wrote:
>
> > Surely the use of GnuCash on OS X beyond the USA and South Africa (which
> also appears to use 07/31/2010) is widespread enough that this bug affects
> more people than just titusn and me!
>
> South Africa? Titus said that he's using nl_NL, which isn't South Africa.
>
> Anyway, I can confirm that whatever changed, changed between the 2.4.8 and
> 2.4.9, but after testing new builds I can also say that the change isn't in
> Gnucash. It's in a dependency package; I just need to figure out which one.
> In the meantime, you can set LC_TIME to your locale (en_AU for you and
> nl_NL for Titus) in Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash by adding the line
>
> export LC_TIME=en_AU
>
> anywhere before the last line.
>

Hi John,

Yes, it's the Netherlands. But that's not too far from South Africa as seen
from Oz. :-)

Thanks a lot for the workaround. That is working for me. Perfect timing, I
just finished the balance sheet and now I can print it with the correct
dates! Be sure to let us know once you found the dependency.

Titus

www.titusnachbauer.com
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[prl]

On 27/07/12 12:33, John Ralls wrote:

>
> Anyway, I can confirm that whatever changed, changed between the 2.4.8 and 2.4.9, but after testing new builds I can also say that the change isn't in Gnucash. It's in a dependency package; I just need to figure out which one.
> In the meantime, you can set LC_TIME to your locale (en_AU for you and nl_NL for Titus) in Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash by adding the line
>
> export LC_TIME=en_AU
>
> anywhere before the last line.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>

I've also done this (but in gnucashrc) and using Locale in the Gnucash
Date/Time settings now works properly.

Thanks,
Peter
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