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[GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

dmacklewis
I installed Gnucash 3.4.1 on MacOS High Sierra 10.13.6 and created a file
with one account. I then exported a Quicken Deluxe 2019 QIF file containing
just the accounts. The import seems to run but when the page to 'Match QIF
accounts with GnuCash accounts' is displayed, it it empty. None of the QIF
or GnuCash accounts are listed. The import finishes with no accounts loaded.
I tried the same import with GnuCash 2.6.21-3 and got the same results. What
am I doing wrong?



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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

David Carlson-4
I am not by my Gnucash right now but if I recall, there is a slightly
different work path to import accounts without transactions.

David Carlson

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 12:22 PM dmacklewis <[hidden email] wrote:

> I installed Gnucash 3.4.1 on MacOS High Sierra 10.13.6 and created a file
> with one account. I then exported a Quicken Deluxe 2019 QIF file containing
> just the accounts. The import seems to run but when the page to 'Match QIF
> accounts with GnuCash accounts' is displayed, it it empty. None of the QIF
> or GnuCash accounts are listed. The import finishes with no accounts
> loaded.
> I tried the same import with GnuCash 2.6.21-3 and got the same results.
> What
> am I doing wrong?
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

Derek Atkins-3
You can't.  Qif only imports transactions.  If you have no transactions
then the importer will do nothing.

-derek
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On February 12, 2019 1:37:28 PM David Carlson <[hidden email]>
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> I am not by my Gnucash right now but if I recall, there is a slightly
> different work path to import accounts without transactions.
>
> David Carlson
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 12:22 PM dmacklewis <[hidden email] wrote:
>
>> I installed Gnucash 3.4.1 on MacOS High Sierra 10.13.6 and created a file
>> with one account. I then exported a Quicken Deluxe 2019 QIF file containing
>> just the accounts. The import seems to run but when the page to 'Match QIF
>> accounts with GnuCash accounts' is displayed, it it empty. None of the QIF
>> or GnuCash accounts are listed. The import finishes with no accounts
>> loaded.
>> I tried the same import with GnuCash 2.6.21-3 and got the same results.
>> What
>> am I doing wrong?
>>
>>
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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

Adrien Monteleone-2
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Does Quicken offer the option to export just the account tree as a CSV? You can import an account tree into GnuCash if it is in the proper CSV format. This is a fixed format, you can’t map the columns so you’ll need to likley modify the Quicken export to conform before importing.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 12, 2019, at 12:20 PM, dmacklewis <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I installed Gnucash 3.4.1 on MacOS High Sierra 10.13.6 and created a file
> with one account. I then exported a Quicken Deluxe 2019 QIF file containing
> just the accounts. The import seems to run but when the page to 'Match QIF
> accounts with GnuCash accounts' is displayed, it it empty. None of the QIF
> or GnuCash accounts are listed. The import finishes with no accounts loaded.
> I tried the same import with GnuCash 2.6.21-3 and got the same results. What
> am I doing wrong?
>

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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

dmacklewis
No, Quicken does not have the CSV option. It has the options to export
transactions, account list, category list, memorized payees and security
list. I assumed GnuCash would build an account tree from an account list
based on the following from the Quicken Migration wiki statement "Although
it is not necessary, you may find it easier to migrate your data if you
first create an account tree by exporting your Quicken categories list only,
and importing it in GnuCash before any migration of transactions." I
interpreted that to mean I could do the same thing with an account list. I
shall try the category list route next.



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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

dmacklewis
Nope, the category import also produces nothing.



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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

Bucky Carr
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Quicken2016 has a .PRN export option that looks like this:

"Date","Num","Payee","Category","Memo","Amount","C","Balance"
"6/24/1992",,"VG - 500 Index","[Retire - VG - Rollover
IRA]",,-2.50,"R",-2.50,
"9/24/1992",,"VG - 500 Index","[Retire - VG - Rollover
IRA]",,-2.50,"R",-5.00,


Is that close enough to cvs?


On 2/12/2019 1:54 PM, dmacklewis wrote:
> No, Quicken does not have the CSV option.

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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

David Carlson-4
If you are in a mood to experiment you could try exporting as qif a limited
date range of a month or so from the bank account in Quicken that should
match the account you have already set up in Gnucash both with and without
the account tree.  Then try importing both.  That might at least get all
the accounts and categories that exist in those transactions.

David Carlson

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 3:04 PM Bucky Carr <[hidden email] wrote:

>
> Quicken2016 has a .PRN export option that looks like this:
>
> "Date","Num","Payee","Category","Memo","Amount","C","Balance"
> "6/24/1992",,"VG - 500 Index","[Retire - VG - Rollover
> IRA]",,-2.50,"R",-2.50,
> "9/24/1992",,"VG - 500 Index","[Retire - VG - Rollover
> IRA]",,-2.50,"R",-5.00,
>
>
> Is that close enough to cvs?
>
>
> On 2/12/2019 1:54 PM, dmacklewis wrote:
> > No, Quicken does not have the CSV option.
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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

Adrien Monteleone-2
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But this is based off transactions and I don’t think the OP wanted transactional data, just accounts.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 12, 2019, at 3:01 PM, Bucky Carr <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> Quicken2016 has a .PRN export option that looks like this:
>
> "Date","Num","Payee","Category","Memo","Amount","C","Balance"
> "6/24/1992",,"VG - 500 Index","[Retire - VG - Rollover IRA]",,-2.50,"R",-2.50,
> "9/24/1992",,"VG - 500 Index","[Retire - VG - Rollover IRA]",,-2.50,"R",-5.00,
>
>
> Is that close enough to cvs?
>
>
> On 2/12/2019 1:54 PM, dmacklewis wrote:
>> No, Quicken does not have the CSV option.


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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

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That is a fair interpretation, since that's what the wiki says. However, it would appear that the wiki is in need of some correction.

I'm not sure, but that wiki language may have resulted from a writer's misunderstanding of the different import vectors, with one writer assuming that account structures would be manually entered, while another assumed that it could happen via an import.

It may also be that the importer logic changed, but that is less likely.

David T.

On February 13, 2019, at 2:25 AM, dmacklewis <[hidden email]> wrote:

No, Quicken does not have the CSV option. It has the options to export
transactions, account list, category list, memorized payees and security
list. I assumed GnuCash would build an account tree from an account list
based on the following from the Quicken Migration wiki statement "Although
it is not necessary, you may find it easier to migrate your data if you
first create an account tree by exporting your Quicken categories list only,
and importing it in GnuCash before any migration of transactions." I
interpreted that to mean I could do the same thing with an account list. I
shall try the category list route next.



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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

dmacklewis
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I have given up trying to create an account structure and then populating it.
Instead I exported one account with transactions of a limited date range and
imported it into GnuCash. I got further this time. The import created the
accounts from the Quicken account/categories, showed the matches for editing
and things were looking pretty good, but the actual import failed and told
me there was a problem with the import. No indication of what the problem
was. I looked at the only log I could find but it was not helpful, at least
there were no error indicators. I don't know how to troubleshoot this.



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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

Kenneth Schneider
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On 2/12/19 1:20 PM, dmacklewis wrote:
> I installed Gnucash 3.4.1 on MacOS High Sierra 10.13.6 and created a file
> with one account. I then exported a Quicken Deluxe 2019 QIF file containing
> just the accounts. The import seems to run but when the page to 'Match QIF
> accounts with GnuCash accounts' is displayed, it it empty. None of the QIF
> or GnuCash accounts are listed. The import finishes with no accounts loaded.
> I tried the same import with GnuCash 2.6.21-3 and got the same results. What
> am I doing wrong?
>
>

Keep in mind that you need to also export all of the Quicken
'categories' in order to populate all of the 'accounts' in GNUcash.

Ken
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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

dmacklewis
Yup, that's what I did, 1 account with transactions, accounts & categories.



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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

Tom Teixeira
I recently went through the process of importing from Quicken and
encountered some errors. I exported different date ranges to narrow the
problem down and eventually hand edited the lines in the QIF file that
had problems. In my case, there were strings of non-alphanumeric
characters in the file. I would have to re-export the QIF files to get a
better idea where. Since I am running gnucash on Mac OS and the Quicken
export files were from Windows, the line numbers in gnucash's error
message were off. If I converted the DOS end of line sequence
(carriage-return/line-feed) to Mac OS, the line numbers were correct
which made it easier to find the line in the QIF file that needed
correction.

There was one complex transaction with many splits (I don't remember the
Quicken term for this) that I just completely avoided in the Quicken
exports and then manually added that transaction in with Gnucash. If
this had been more than a one-time task for me, I would have spent more
time trying to fix this on the Quicken side -- maybe I had an empty or
non-existent name for some account that had been automatically generated
using Quicken's direct connect.



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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

dmacklewis
Thanks for the info. I have the same environment and will be doing the same
manual editing you did. I apparently have more time than you had and will be
trying to also fix things on the Quicken side. Thanks again for your post.



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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

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dmacklewis <[hidden email]> writes:

> I have given up trying to create an account structure and then populating it.
> Instead I exported one account with transactions of a limited date range and
> imported it into GnuCash. I got further this time. The import created the
> accounts from the Quicken account/categories, showed the matches for editing
> and things were looking pretty good, but the actual import failed and told
> me there was a problem with the import. No indication of what the problem
> was. I looked at the only log I could find but it was not helpful, at least
> there were no error indicators. I don't know how to troubleshoot this.

Did you look at the Trace File?  https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile

There should have been some error printed.

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Derek Atkins-3
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D via gnucash-user <[hidden email]> writes:

> That is a fair interpretation, since that's what the wiki
> says. However, it would appear that the wiki is in need of some
> correction.
>
> I'm not sure, but that wiki language may have resulted from a writer's
> misunderstanding of the different import vectors, with one writer
> assuming that account structures would be manually entered, while
> another assumed that it could happen via an import.
>
> It may also be that the importer logic changed, but that is less likely.

When you import from QIF there are two ways to look at it:

1) You could create an account structure first (e.g. by the File
   Hierarchy assistant) and then map your QIF accounts to the gnucash
   structure, or

2) You can let the QIF importer create the new accounts for you.

The only problem with #2 is that it will put most of your categories
into top-level Expense accounts.  So instead of having
Expenses:Groceries, your "Groceries" category will get created as a
top-level "Groceries" expense account.

It was probably unclear in the wiki that option #1 means creating the
accounts in gnucash first and then mapping them during the qif import.
If you do #2 and then restructure, the QIF import mappings will be wrong
if you do a subsequent import.

> David T.

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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

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Pardon me for being thick headed, but I can find no place where there is an
option to Reply-To-List or Reply-All. How to do that?



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David Carlson-4
 dmacklewis,

Since you have a gmail address, I will speculate that you use Gmail as your
mail client.  If you are on a tablet or laptop, at the upper right corner
of each message there is a curved arrow symbol that says Reply if you hover
over it with the mouse pointer.  Just to the right click on the three dots
called More...  The pop-up menu includes the Reply All curved arrow.  That
is what you want.

If you use a different client the procedure is similar, but a little
different.

David Carlson

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Re: [GNC] Struggling with Quicken import

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On February 17, 2019, at 7:29 AM, David Carlson <[hidden email]> wrote:

 dmacklewis,

Since you have a gmail address, I will speculate that you use Gmail as your
mail client.  If you are on a tablet or laptop, at the upper right corner
of each message there is a curved arrow symbol that says Reply if you hover
over it with the mouse pointer.  Just to the right click on the three dots
called More...  The pop-up menu includes the Reply All curved arrow.  That
is what you want.

If you use a different client the procedure is similar, but a little
different.

David Carlson

On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 7:47 PM dmacklewis <[hidden email]> wrote:

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