[GNC] I would like different Preference settings for different files, same user

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[GNC] I would like different Preference settings for different files, same user

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My personal accounts run according to the UK tax year - 6th Apr one year to 5th Apr the next - but I also keep the books for East of Scotland Jazz Education (ESJE), a charity  whose reporting year runs from 1st Nov one year to 31st Oct the next because its peak activity in bookkeeping terms is a Summer Jazz School.

The manual tells me quite clearly that Preferences are per-user, not per-file, so I can’t complain that Gnucash isn’t doing what’s intended! BUT it isn’t convenient to have to switch to another user to edit the ESJE books.

Has anyone similarly afflicted invented a work-around?

Regards,

Michael

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Re: [GNC] I would like different Preference settings for different files, same user

Jeff Abrahamson
I'd happily +1 a bug report that it should be a book preference rather
than a user preference.  It makes no sense to me to force a user to see
the same fiscal year everywhere s/he looks but then to let multiple
users see the same book with different fiscal years.

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On 03/03/2019 12:58, Michael Hendry wrote:

> My personal accounts run according to the UK tax year - 6th Apr one year to 5th Apr the next - but I also keep the books for East of Scotland Jazz Education (ESJE), a charity  whose reporting year runs from 1st Nov one year to 31st Oct the next because its peak activity in bookkeeping terms is a Summer Jazz School.
>
> The manual tells me quite clearly that Preferences are per-user, not per-file, so I can’t complain that Gnucash isn’t doing what’s intended! BUT it isn’t convenient to have to switch to another user to edit the ESJE books.
>
> Has anyone similarly afflicted invented a work-around?
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
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Re: [GNC] I would like different Preference settings for different files, same user

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On 03/03/2019 11:58, Michael Hendry wrote:

> My personal accounts run according to the UK tax year - 6th Apr one year to 5th Apr the next - but I also keep the books for East of Scotland Jazz Education (ESJE), a charity  whose reporting year runs from 1st Nov one year to 31st Oct the next because its peak activity in bookkeeping terms is a Summer Jazz School.
>
> The manual tells me quite clearly that Preferences are per-user, not per-file, so I can’t complain that Gnucash isn’t doing what’s intended! BUT it isn’t convenient to have to switch to another user to edit the ESJE books.
>
> Has anyone similarly afflicted invented a work-around?
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
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I agree wholeheartedly, it's illogical not to be able to set different
financial years for different sets of accounts. I have exactly the same
problem. I keep the accounts for two organisations, one has a financial
year ending 31st December, the other ending 31st March, so when I get
reports for one of them I have to set the start and end dates manually.

John Dablin

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Re: [GNC] I would like different Preference settings for different files, same user

Jeff Abrahamson
A bug was filed on this issue in November of 2007 (!).

    https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=493789

I've updated it to to point to this thread.  I strongly encourage those
of you who who feel that this is important to add yourselves to that bug.

I've not found documentation on how the gnucash developers prefer one
express interest.  A common technique in many communities is simply to
(create a bugzilla account on bugs.gnucash.org, then) login and add a
single comment with the text "+1".  This will express your interest to
the developers, add you to receive emails about the evolution of the
bug, and make it easy to find again (in principle, anyway).

Jeff


On 03/03/2019 15:35, John Dablin via gnucash-user wrote:

> On 03/03/2019 11:58, Michael Hendry wrote:
>> My personal accounts run according to the UK tax year - 6th Apr one
>> year to 5th Apr the next - but I also keep the books for East of
>> Scotland Jazz Education (ESJE), a charity  whose reporting year runs
>> from 1st Nov one year to 31st Oct the next because its peak activity
>> in bookkeeping terms is a Summer Jazz School.
>>
>> The manual tells me quite clearly that Preferences are per-user, not
>> per-file, so I can’t complain that Gnucash isn’t doing what’s
>> intended! BUT it isn’t convenient to have to switch to another user
>> to edit the ESJE books.
>>
>> Has anyone similarly afflicted invented a work-around?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Michael
>>
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> I agree wholeheartedly, it's illogical not to be able to set different
> financial years for different sets of accounts. I have exactly the
> same problem. I keep the accounts for two organisations, one has a
> financial year ending 31st December, the other ending 31st March, so
> when I get reports for one of them I have to set the start and end
> dates manually.
>
> John Dablin
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Re: [GNC] I would like different Preference settings for different files, same user

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On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 11:58:14 +0000
Michael Hendry <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The manual tells me quite clearly that Preferences are per-user, not
> per-file, so I can’t complain that Gnucash isn’t doing what’s
> intended! BUT it isn’t convenient to have to switch to another user
> to edit the ESJE books.
>
> Has anyone similarly afflicted invented a work-around?

The only known workaround is to keep the books under different user
accounts on your computer.
If the other user was in a virtual machine it would be a little easier,
but not easy.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] I would like different Preference settings for different files, same user

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> On 3 Mar 2019, at 15:34, Jeff Abrahamson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> A bug was filed on this issue in November of 2007 (!).
>
>    https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=493789
>
> I've updated it to to point to this thread.  I strongly encourage those
> of you who who feel that this is important to add yourselves to that bug.
>
> I've not found documentation on how the gnucash developers prefer one
> express interest.  A common technique in many communities is simply to
> (create a bugzilla account on bugs.gnucash.org, then) login and add a
> single comment with the text "+1".  This will express your interest to
> the developers, add you to receive emails about the evolution of the
> bug, and make it easy to find again (in principle, anyway).
>
> Jeff

Thanks, Jeff.

I wouldn’t necessarily describe this as a “bug”, in that the program is operating as intended (and documented).

The same issue affects Saved Report Configurations, where applying another book’s reports is likely to yield suboptimal results.

I can imagine that there are situations where per-user settings would be helpful (e.g. the Account Separator character, which is what got me into this in the first place).

If given the option, I would favour the per-book separation of preferences and report configurations with the option of “priming” a newly created book from an existing configuration or accepting a default set.

Michael

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Re: [GNC] I would like different Preference settings for different files, same user

Liz
On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 09:31:41 +0000
Michael Hendry <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I wouldn’t necessarily describe this as a “bug”, in that the program
> is operating as intended (and documented).

One class of "bug" on bugzilla is the RFE or Request For Enhancement.
This falls into this class.

Liz
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Re: [GNC] I would like different Preference settings for different files, same user

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> On 4 Mar 2019, at 08:31, Liz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 11:58:14 +0000
> Michael Hendry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> The manual tells me quite clearly that Preferences are per-user, not
>> per-file, so I can’t complain that Gnucash isn’t doing what’s
>> intended! BUT it isn’t convenient to have to switch to another user
>> to edit the ESJE books.
>>
>> Has anyone similarly afflicted invented a work-around?
>
> The only known workaround is to keep the books under different user
> accounts on your computer.
> If the other user was in a virtual machine it would be a little easier,
> but not easy.
>
> Liz

Thanks, Liz.

I got into this because I was creating several similar reports for the ESJE book, copying-and-pasting the account titles from the reports for use in the filenames - the (default) colon separator caused problems and I replaced it with a hyphen.

When I went back to my personal book I was warned that the use of hyphen as a separator would clash with hyphen-containing account names.

I have VMs for Windows and for Ubuntu on my Mac, but firing one of these up for a quick enquiry on a book would be a pain, so I’ll stick with what I’ve got - choosing preferences that will suit both books as far as possible, adjusting the accounting year where necessary and keeping my eyes open when it comes to Saved Reports.

Michael


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