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Plutocrat
Well I was bored at work (which isn't to say I didn't have any to do ...), so I thought I'd fiddle around with the gnucash flatpak I had installed on my laptop to see if I could figure out what was going on.

I personally use the XML file, so I installed mysql-server, struggled to reset the root password and then created a gnucash user and database. Tried to save to host=localhost, db=gnucash, user=gnucash, password=xxxxxx and experienced the same problem as previously detailed on this list.

Cue an hour of digging through documentation on flatpak,
http://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions-reference.html

This looked promising, but didn't work, throwing an error.
flatpak permission-show org.gnucash.GnuCash

This flag looked like it might work, but made no difference.
--share=network  (Giving network access also grants access to all host services listening on abstract Unix sockets (due to how network namespaces work)

Eventually I found the manifest.json file in /usr/lib/flatpak/blah/blah and determined that it did actually have network access anyway. And /home/user/ directory access, for the record.

I was poring through mysql logs, and I saw 'Listening on 127.0.0.1', so I thought I'd give that a try on the off-chance ... and it worked! Database saved OK, and I could work off that one.

So, apparently changing hostname from localhost to 127.0.0.1 was the magic charm. Anyone else want to give it a try and report back?

P.
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash Flatpak 3.2 Mysql issue

Adrien Monteleone-2
While --share=network should give you access to unix-sockets, I don’t think that includes access to ‘/etc/hosts’ which lies outside of the sandbox therefore, I’d suspect the reference to ‘localhost’ is not resolving, so only the actual IP address will work.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Sep 3, 2018, at 11:00 PM, Plutocrat <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Well I was bored at work (which isn't to say I didn't have any to do ...), so I thought I'd fiddle around with the gnucash flatpak I had installed on my laptop to see if I could figure out what was going on.
>
> I personally use the XML file, so I installed mysql-server, struggled to reset the root password and then created a gnucash user and database. Tried to save to host=localhost, db=gnucash, user=gnucash, password=xxxxxx and experienced the same problem as previously detailed on this list.
>
> Cue an hour of digging through documentation on flatpak,
> http://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions-reference.html
>
> This looked promising, but didn't work, throwing an error.
> flatpak permission-show org.gnucash.GnuCash
>
> This flag looked like it might work, but made no difference.
> --share=network  (Giving network access also grants access to all host services listening on abstract Unix sockets (due to how network namespaces work)
>
> Eventually I found the manifest.json file in /usr/lib/flatpak/blah/blah and determined that it did actually have network access anyway. And /home/user/ directory access, for the record.
>
> I was poring through mysql logs, and I saw 'Listening on 127.0.0.1', so I thought I'd give that a try on the off-chance ... and it worked! Database saved OK, and I could work off that one.
>
> So, apparently changing hostname from localhost to 127.0.0.1 was the magic charm. Anyone else want to give it a try and report back?
>
> P.
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash Flatpak 3.2 Mysql issue

Geert Janssens-4
Op dinsdag 4 september 2018 08:35:08 CEST schreef Adrien Monteleone:
> While --share=network should give you access to unix-sockets, I don’t think
> that includes access to ‘/etc/hosts’ which lies outside of the sandbox
> therefore, I’d suspect the reference to ‘localhost’ is not resolving, so
> only the actual IP address will work.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
An interesting observation. This can be tested by adding --filesystem=/etc/
hosts:ro to the flatpak invocation.

My guess was the unix socket would not be available to the flatpak. Reading
the footnote on the flatpak Sandbox Permissions page http://docs.flatpak.org/
en/latest/sandbox-permissions-reference.html#f2 on the other hand suggests
what you also indicate: --share=network should give access to unix-sockets
(I'm not sure why flatpak makes that "abstract" Unix sockets though).

Geert


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Re: [GNC] Gnucash Flatpak 3.2 Mysql issue

Colin Law
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Excellent, thanks for working that out.  Specifying 127.0.0.1 works
for me too.  I have updated the issue [1].
That means that for me the flatpak is a working solution.  However,
given the fact there has been absolutely no feedback from the
maintainer on any of this I am not particularly hopeful that the
flatpak will be kept up to date, any more than the snap package has
been.

Colin

[1] https://github.com/flathub/org.gnucash.GnuCash/issues/17
On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 05:03, Plutocrat <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Well I was bored at work (which isn't to say I didn't have any to do ...), so I thought I'd fiddle around with the gnucash flatpak I had installed on my laptop to see if I could figure out what was going on.
>
> I personally use the XML file, so I installed mysql-server, struggled to reset the root password and then created a gnucash user and database. Tried to save to host=localhost, db=gnucash, user=gnucash, password=xxxxxx and experienced the same problem as previously detailed on this list.
>
> Cue an hour of digging through documentation on flatpak,
> http://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions-reference.html
>
> This looked promising, but didn't work, throwing an error.
> flatpak permission-show org.gnucash.GnuCash
>
> This flag looked like it might work, but made no difference.
> --share=network  (Giving network access also grants access to all host services listening on abstract Unix sockets (due to how network namespaces work)
>
> Eventually I found the manifest.json file in /usr/lib/flatpak/blah/blah and determined that it did actually have network access anyway. And /home/user/ directory access, for the record.
>
> I was poring through mysql logs, and I saw 'Listening on 127.0.0.1', so I thought I'd give that a try on the off-chance ... and it worked! Database saved OK, and I could work off that one.
>
> So, apparently changing hostname from localhost to 127.0.0.1 was the magic charm. Anyone else want to give it a try and report back?
>
> P.
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash Flatpak 3.2 Mysql issue

Geert Janssens-4
Op dinsdag 4 september 2018 09:19:40 CEST schreef Colin Law:
> Excellent, thanks for working that out.  Specifying 127.0.0.1 works
> for me too.  I have updated the issue [1].
> That means that for me the flatpak is a working solution.  However,
> given the fact there has been absolutely no feedback from the
> maintainer on any of this I am not particularly hopeful that the
> flatpak will be kept up to date, any more than the snap package has
> been.
>
I am considering taking over maintenance of the flatpak manifest. That's also
how flathub envisions it should be. And it would allow us to make nightly
flatpaks in addition to release versions.

Colin, do you use online quote sources for prices ? I believe the
Finance::Quote module is also missing from flatpak.

Geert


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Re: [GNC] Gnucash Flatpak 3.2 Mysql issue

Colin Law
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 08:15, Geert Janssens <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Op dinsdag 4 september 2018 08:35:08 CEST schreef Adrien Monteleone:
> > While --share=network should give you access to unix-sockets, I don’t think
> > that includes access to ‘/etc/hosts’ which lies outside of the sandbox
> > therefore, I’d suspect the reference to ‘localhost’ is not resolving, so
> > only the actual IP address will work.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> An interesting observation. This can be tested by adding --filesystem=/etc/
> hosts:ro to the flatpak invocation.

I have tried
sudo flatpak override org.gnucash.GnuCash --filesystem=/etc/hosts:ro
but that does not fix it.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash Flatpak 3.2 Mysql issue

Geert Janssens-4
Op dinsdag 4 september 2018 09:31:19 CEST schreef Colin Law:
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 08:15, Geert Janssens <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> > Op dinsdag 4 september 2018 08:35:08 CEST schreef Adrien Monteleone:
> > > While --share=network should give you access to unix-sockets, I don’t
> > > think
> > > that includes access to ‘/etc/hosts’ which lies outside of the sandbox
> > > therefore, I’d suspect the reference to ‘localhost’ is not resolving, so
> > > only the actual IP address will work.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Adrien
> >
> > An interesting observation. This can be tested by adding
> > --filesystem=/etc/
> > hosts:ro to the flatpak invocation.
>
> I have tried
> sudo flatpak override org.gnucash.GnuCash --filesystem=/etc/hosts:ro
> but that does not fix it.
>
> Colin

Ok, and how about
--filesystem=/var/lib/mysql

Geert



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Re: [GNC] Gnucash Flatpak 3.2 Mysql issue

Colin Law
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 08:29, Geert Janssens <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Op dinsdag 4 september 2018 09:19:40 CEST schreef Colin Law:
> > Excellent, thanks for working that out.  Specifying 127.0.0.1 works
> > for me too.  I have updated the issue [1].
> > That means that for me the flatpak is a working solution.  However,
> > given the fact there has been absolutely no feedback from the
> > maintainer on any of this I am not particularly hopeful that the
> > flatpak will be kept up to date, any more than the snap package has
> > been.
> >
> I am considering taking over maintenance of the flatpak manifest. That's also
> how flathub envisions it should be. And it would allow us to make nightly
> flatpaks in addition to release versions.
>
> Colin, do you use online quote sources for prices ? I believe the
> Finance::Quote module is also missing from flatpak.

That would be great.  For Ubuntu the snap package would be preferable
but one can't have everything.
No I don't use Finance::Quote.  On startup I see
WARN <gnc.app-utils> Could not spawn perl: Failed to execute child
process “perl” (No such file or directory)
I thought that perl was only used for F::Q but I don't know much about
it.  Is there anything you would like me to try?

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash Flatpak 3.2 Mysql issue

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On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 08:35, Geert Janssens <[hidden email]> wrote:
> ...
> Ok, and how about
> --filesystem=/var/lib/mysql

No joy there either I am afraid.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash Flatpak 3.2 Mysql issue

Geert Janssens-4
Op dinsdag 4 september 2018 09:41:46 CEST schreef Colin Law:
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 08:35, Geert Janssens <[hidden email]>
wrote:
> > ...
> > Ok, and how about
> > --filesystem=/var/lib/mysql
>
> No joy there either I am afraid.
>
> Colin

Hmm, that was on the assumption the mysql unix socket would live there. Can
you verify this on your system ?

And if it doesn't work, what errors do you see in your trace file ? (You may
have to re-add your --filesystem=/tmp parameter to get a trace file)

Geert


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Re: [GNC] Gnucash Flatpak 3.2 Mysql issue

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On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 08:47, Geert Janssens <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Op dinsdag 4 september 2018 09:41:46 CEST schreef Colin Law:
> > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 08:35, Geert Janssens <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > > ...
> > > Ok, and how about
> > > --filesystem=/var/lib/mysql
> >
> > No joy there either I am afraid.
> >
> > Colin
>
> Hmm, that was on the assumption the mysql unix socket would live there. Can
> you verify this on your system ?
>
> And if it doesn't work, what errors do you see in your trace file ? (You may
> have to re-add your --filesystem=/tmp parameter to get a trace file)

I am not particularly knowledgeable on unix sockets but I think it is
/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock (which does exist) so tried
/var/run/mysqld but to no avail.

In the trace file I see
CRIT <gnc.backend.dbi> [GncDbiBackend<Type>::session_begin()] Unable
to connect to database 'gnucash'
as before.

Colin
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash Flatpak 3.2 Mysql issue

Geert Janssens-4
Op dinsdag 4 september 2018 10:19:09 CEST schreef Colin Law:
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 08:47, Geert Janssens <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> > Op dinsdag 4 september 2018 09:41:46 CEST schreef Colin Law:
> > > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 08:35, Geert Janssens <[hidden email]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > > Ok, and how about
> > > > --filesystem=/var/lib/mysql
> > >
> > > No joy there either I am afraid.
> > >
> > > Colin
> >
> > Hmm, that was on the assumption the mysql unix socket would live there.
> > Can
> > you verify this on your system ?
> >
> > And if it doesn't work, what errors do you see in your trace file ? (You
> > may have to re-add your --filesystem=/tmp parameter to get a trace file)
> I am not particularly knowledgeable on unix sockets but I think it is
> /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock (which does exist) so tried
> /var/run/mysqld but to no avail.
>
> In the trace file I see
> CRIT <gnc.backend.dbi> [GncDbiBackend<Type>::session_begin()] Unable
> to connect to database 'gnucash'
> as before.
>
> Colin

Ok, thanks. Unfortunately that's a very vague error message :(
This will need more experimentation then. But we have a viable workaround for
now so getting localhost with Unix socket working is less urgent.

Geert



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Re: [GNC] Gnucash Flatpak 3.2 Mysql issue

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> On Sep 4, 2018, at 12:38 AM, Colin Law <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 08:29, Geert Janssens <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>> Op dinsdag 4 september 2018 09:19:40 CEST schreef Colin Law:
>>> Excellent, thanks for working that out.  Specifying 127.0.0.1 works
>>> for me too.  I have updated the issue [1].
>>> That means that for me the flatpak is a working solution.  However,
>>> given the fact there has been absolutely no feedback from the
>>> maintainer on any of this I am not particularly hopeful that the
>>> flatpak will be kept up to date, any more than the snap package has
>>> been.
>>>
>> I am considering taking over maintenance of the flatpak manifest. That's also
>> how flathub envisions it should be. And it would allow us to make nightly
>> flatpaks in addition to release versions.
>>
>> Colin, do you use online quote sources for prices ? I believe the
>> Finance::Quote module is also missing from flatpak.
>
> That would be great.  For Ubuntu the snap package would be preferable
> but one can't have everything.
> No I don't use Finance::Quote.  On startup I see
> WARN <gnc.app-utils> Could not spawn perl: Failed to execute child
> process “perl” (No such file or directory)
> I thought that perl was only used for F::Q but I don't know much about
> it.  Is there anything you would like me to try?

We do use perl only for F::Q, and that check is the first part of seeing if F::Q is available. We should probably reduce it to a PINFO, it confuses a lot of users.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Gnucash Flatpak 3.2 Mysql issue

Colin Law
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I also notice that the docs are not included. Help shows the not found error.

Colin
On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 09:36, Geert Janssens <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Op dinsdag 4 september 2018 10:19:09 CEST schreef Colin Law:
> > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 08:47, Geert Janssens <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > > Op dinsdag 4 september 2018 09:41:46 CEST schreef Colin Law:
> > > > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 08:35, Geert Janssens <[hidden email]>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > ...
> > > > > Ok, and how about
> > > > > --filesystem=/var/lib/mysql
> > > >
> > > > No joy there either I am afraid.
> > > >
> > > > Colin
> > >
> > > Hmm, that was on the assumption the mysql unix socket would live there.
> > > Can
> > > you verify this on your system ?
> > >
> > > And if it doesn't work, what errors do you see in your trace file ? (You
> > > may have to re-add your --filesystem=/tmp parameter to get a trace file)
> > I am not particularly knowledgeable on unix sockets but I think it is
> > /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock (which does exist) so tried
> > /var/run/mysqld but to no avail.
> >
> > In the trace file I see
> > CRIT <gnc.backend.dbi> [GncDbiBackend<Type>::session_begin()] Unable
> > to connect to database 'gnucash'
> > as before.
> >
> > Colin
>
> Ok, thanks. Unfortunately that's a very vague error message :(
> This will need more experimentation then. But we have a viable workaround for
> now so getting localhost with Unix socket working is less urgent.
>
> Geert
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash Flatpak 3.2 Mysql issue

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Geert Janssens-4 wrote
> I am considering taking over maintenance of the flatpak manifest. That's
> also
> how flathub envisions it should be. And it would allow us to make nightly
> flatpaks in addition to release versions.

That would be great! After I replaced Windows with Linux, I figured out that
Windows users have the advantage of accessing the nightly builds whereas
(some) Linux users still can install only fairly old versions of GnuCash.
Even for rolling distos (like openSuse Tumbleweed), I need to nudge the
maintainers to build the latest official release. Won't even mention the
latest updates.
Of course, one could just build the application oneself (and install tons of
tools and libraries just for that purpose) but that's not my idea of being a
software user.
That would also fulfill https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796019.



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