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[GNC] FX fetching strangeness

Jeff Abrahamson
I'm using gnucash 3.4 and Finance::Quote 1.47 on linux (ubuntu 19.04). 
I'm trying to get FQ to work for me.

When I enter a dual-currency transaction, the quote editor pops up.  If
I touch the "fetch rate" button, I see a dialog that says "unable to
retrieve quotes for these items: CURRENCY:CHF" and three other currencies.

I have precisely those four currencies in use, though I'm a bit confused
why FQ would have tried to fetch all four at once when I only needed
one.  I'm also confused why it found none.

Based on a conversation on this list in 2018, I tried this:

    jeff@birdsong:~ $ gnc-fq-dump currency USD EUR
    1 USD = <unknown> EUR
    jeff@birdsong:~ $ gnc-fq-dump alphavantage USD EUR
    Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
        symbol: USD (deduced)        <=== required
          date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
      currency: ** missing **        <=== required
          last:                      <=\      
           nav:                      <=== one of these
         price:                      <=/       
      timezone:                      <=== optional

    ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!

    =====

    Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
        symbol: EUR (deduced)        <=== required
          date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
      currency: ** missing **        <=== required
          last:                      <=\      
           nav:                      <=== one of these
         price:                      <=/       
      timezone:                      <=== optional

    ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!

    jeff@birdsong:~ $

Any suggestions on what to do or what to test?

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Re: [GNC] FX fetching strangeness

John Ralls-2
Do you have an Alphavantage key set in $ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY (for command line tools like gnc-fq-dump) and in Preferences>Online Quotes (for GnuCash's internal use)?

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 4, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Jeff Abrahamson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I'm using gnucash 3.4 and Finance::Quote 1.47 on linux (ubuntu 19.04).
> I'm trying to get FQ to work for me.
>
> When I enter a dual-currency transaction, the quote editor pops up.  If
> I touch the "fetch rate" button, I see a dialog that says "unable to
> retrieve quotes for these items: CURRENCY:CHF" and three other currencies.
>
> I have precisely those four currencies in use, though I'm a bit confused
> why FQ would have tried to fetch all four at once when I only needed
> one.  I'm also confused why it found none.
>
> Based on a conversation on this list in 2018, I tried this:
>
>    jeff@birdsong:~ $ gnc-fq-dump currency USD EUR
>    1 USD = <unknown> EUR
>    jeff@birdsong:~ $ gnc-fq-dump alphavantage USD EUR
>    Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
>        symbol: USD (deduced)        <=== required
>          date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
>      currency: ** missing **        <=== required
>          last:                      <=\      
>           nav:                      <=== one of these
>         price:                      <=/      
>      timezone:                      <=== optional
>
>    ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!
>
>    =====
>
>    Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
>        symbol: EUR (deduced)        <=== required
>          date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
>      currency: ** missing **        <=== required
>          last:                      <=\      
>           nav:                      <=== one of these
>         price:                      <=/      
>      timezone:                      <=== optional
>
>    ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!
>
>    jeff@birdsong:~ $
>
> Any suggestions on what to do or what to test?
>
> --
>
> Jeff Abrahamson
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> +44 7920 594 255
>
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> http://transport-nantes.com/
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Re: [GNC] FX fetching strangeness

Jeff Abrahamson
That was it.  Thanks.

I've also filed this:

    https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797343

Jeff Abrahamson
http://p27.eu/jeff/
http://transport-nantes.com/


On 04/08/2019 21:39, John Ralls wrote:

> Do you have an Alphavantage key set in $ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY (for command line tools like gnc-fq-dump) and in Preferences>Online Quotes (for GnuCash's internal use)?
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Jeff Abrahamson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm using gnucash 3.4 and Finance::Quote 1.47 on linux (ubuntu 19.04).
>> I'm trying to get FQ to work for me.
>>
>> When I enter a dual-currency transaction, the quote editor pops up.  If
>> I touch the "fetch rate" button, I see a dialog that says "unable to
>> retrieve quotes for these items: CURRENCY:CHF" and three other currencies.
>>
>> I have precisely those four currencies in use, though I'm a bit confused
>> why FQ would have tried to fetch all four at once when I only needed
>> one.  I'm also confused why it found none.
>>
>> Based on a conversation on this list in 2018, I tried this:
>>
>>    jeff@birdsong:~ $ gnc-fq-dump currency USD EUR
>>    1 USD = <unknown> EUR
>>    jeff@birdsong:~ $ gnc-fq-dump alphavantage USD EUR
>>    Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
>>        symbol: USD (deduced)        <=== required
>>          date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
>>      currency: ** missing **        <=== required
>>          last:                      <=\      
>>           nav:                      <=== one of these
>>         price:                      <=/      
>>      timezone:                      <=== optional
>>
>>    ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!
>>
>>    =====
>>
>>    Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
>>        symbol: EUR (deduced)        <=== required
>>          date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
>>      currency: ** missing **        <=== required
>>          last:                      <=\      
>>           nav:                      <=== one of these
>>         price:                      <=/      
>>      timezone:                      <=== optional
>>
>>    ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!
>>
>>    jeff@birdsong:~ $
>>
>> Any suggestions on what to do or what to test?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jeff Abrahamson
>> +33 6 24 40 01 57
>> +44 7920 594 255
>>
>> http://p27.eu/jeff/
>> http://transport-nantes.com/
>>
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Re: [GNC] FX fetching strangeness

Jeff Abrahamson
Somewhat related, the Alphavantage docs as well as gnucash itself
suggest that Yen is JPY.  And yet

    jeff@birdsong:~ $ gnc-fq-dump alphavantage EUR JPY
    Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
        symbol: EUR (deduced)        <=== required
          date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
      currency: ** missing **        <=== required
          last:                      <=\      
           nav:                      <=== one of these
         price:                      <=/       
      timezone:                      <=== optional

    ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!

    =====

    Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
        symbol: JPY (deduced)        <=== required
          date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
      currency: ** missing **        <=== required
          last:                      <=\      
           nav:                      <=== one of these
         price:                      <=/       
      timezone:                      <=== optional

    ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!

    jeff@birdsong:~ $

I'm I confused or is there a different way of fetching JPY FX?

Thanks.

Jeff


On 11/08/2019 19:20, Jeff Abrahamson wrote:

>
> That was it.  Thanks.
>
> I've also filed this:
>
>     https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797343
>
> Jeff Abrahamson
> http://p27.eu/jeff/
> http://transport-nantes.com/
>
>
> On 04/08/2019 21:39, John Ralls wrote:
>> Do you have an Alphavantage key set in $ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY (for command line tools like gnc-fq-dump) and in Preferences>Online Quotes (for GnuCash's internal use)?
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Jeff Abrahamson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm using gnucash 3.4 and Finance::Quote 1.47 on linux (ubuntu 19.04).
>>> I'm trying to get FQ to work for me.
>>>
>>> When I enter a dual-currency transaction, the quote editor pops up.  If
>>> I touch the "fetch rate" button, I see a dialog that says "unable to
>>> retrieve quotes for these items: CURRENCY:CHF" and three other currencies.
>>>
>>> I have precisely those four currencies in use, though I'm a bit confused
>>> why FQ would have tried to fetch all four at once when I only needed
>>> one.  I'm also confused why it found none.
>>>
>>> Based on a conversation on this list in 2018, I tried this:
>>>
>>>    jeff@birdsong:~ $ gnc-fq-dump currency USD EUR
>>>    1 USD = <unknown> EUR
>>>    jeff@birdsong:~ $ gnc-fq-dump alphavantage USD EUR
>>>    Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
>>>        symbol: USD (deduced)        <=== required
>>>          date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
>>>      currency: ** missing **        <=== required
>>>          last:                      <=\      
>>>           nav:                      <=== one of these
>>>         price:                      <=/      
>>>      timezone:                      <=== optional
>>>
>>>    ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!
>>>
>>>    =====
>>>
>>>    Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
>>>        symbol: EUR (deduced)        <=== required
>>>          date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
>>>      currency: ** missing **        <=== required
>>>          last:                      <=\      
>>>           nav:                      <=== one of these
>>>         price:                      <=/      
>>>      timezone:                      <=== optional
>>>
>>>    ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!
>>>
>>>    jeff@birdsong:~ $
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on what to do or what to test?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Jeff Abrahamson
>>> +33 6 24 40 01 57
>>> +44 7920 594 255
>>>
>>> http://p27.eu/jeff/
>>> http://transport-nantes.com/
>>>
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>
> http://p27.eu/jeff/
> http://transport-nantes.com/

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Re: [GNC] FX fetching strangeness

John Ralls-2
The "alphavantage" source is for stock quotes. To retrieve currency exchange rates use "currency":

gnc-fq-dump currency EUR JPY
1 EUR = 118.31 JPY

That's hard-coded inside of Finance::Quote to use alphavantage and so requires an API key.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 11, 2019, at 10:35 AM, Jeff Abrahamson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Somewhat related, the Alphavantage docs as well as gnucash itself suggest that Yen is JPY.  And yet
>
> jeff@birdsong:~ $ gnc-fq-dump alphavantage EUR JPY
> Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
>     symbol: EUR (deduced)        <=== required
>       date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
>   currency: ** missing **        <=== required
>       last:                      <=\      
>        nav:                      <=== one of these
>      price:                      <=/        
>   timezone:                      <=== optional
>
> ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!
>
> =====
>
> Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
>     symbol: JPY (deduced)        <=== required
>       date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
>   currency: ** missing **        <=== required
>       last:                      <=\      
>        nav:                      <=== one of these
>      price:                      <=/        
>   timezone:                      <=== optional
>
> ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!
>
> jeff@birdsong:~ $
>
> I'm I confused or is there a different way of fetching JPY FX?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> On 11/08/2019 19:20, Jeff Abrahamson wrote:
>> That was it.  Thanks.
>>
>> I've also filed this:
>>
>> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797343
>>
>> Jeff Abrahamson
>>
>> http://p27.eu/jeff/
>> http://transport-nantes.com/
>>
>>
>> On 04/08/2019 21:39, John Ralls wrote:
>>> Do you have an Alphavantage key set in $ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY (for command line tools like gnc-fq-dump) and in Preferences>Online Quotes (for GnuCash's internal use)?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Jeff Abrahamson <[hidden email]>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm using gnucash 3.4 and Finance::Quote 1.47 on linux (ubuntu 19.04).
>>>> I'm trying to get FQ to work for me.
>>>>
>>>> When I enter a dual-currency transaction, the quote editor pops up.  If
>>>> I touch the "fetch rate" button, I see a dialog that says "unable to
>>>> retrieve quotes for these items: CURRENCY:CHF" and three other currencies.
>>>>
>>>> I have precisely those four currencies in use, though I'm a bit confused
>>>> why FQ would have tried to fetch all four at once when I only needed
>>>> one.  I'm also confused why it found none.
>>>>
>>>> Based on a conversation on this list in 2018, I tried this:
>>>>
>>>>    jeff@birdsong:~ $ gnc-fq-dump currency USD EUR
>>>>    1 USD = <unknown> EUR
>>>>    jeff@birdsong:~ $ gnc-fq-dump alphavantage USD EUR
>>>>    Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
>>>>        symbol: USD (deduced)        <=== required
>>>>          date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
>>>>      currency: ** missing **        <=== required
>>>>          last:                      <=\      
>>>>           nav:                      <=== one of these
>>>>         price:                      <=/      
>>>>      timezone:                      <=== optional
>>>>
>>>>    ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!
>>>>
>>>>    =====
>>>>
>>>>    Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
>>>>        symbol: EUR (deduced)        <=== required
>>>>          date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
>>>>      currency: ** missing **        <=== required
>>>>          last:                      <=\      
>>>>           nav:                      <=== one of these
>>>>         price:                      <=/      
>>>>      timezone:                      <=== optional
>>>>
>>>>    ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!
>>>>
>>>>    jeff@birdsong:~ $
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions on what to do or what to test?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Abrahamson
>>>> +33 6 24 40 01 57
>>>> +44 7920 594 255
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://p27.eu/jeff/
>>>> http://transport-nantes.com/
>>>>
>>>>
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>
>
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Re: [GNC] FX fetching strangeness

Jeff Abrahamson
Ah, that works, thanks.  Although within gnucash I'm now able to update
USD, CHF, and GBP against EUR but JPY gives an error (Get Quote ->
"Unable to retrieve quotes for these items: ... Continue using only the
good quotes?").

I read that I am limited to 5 quote per minute, this would be three plus
an error.  So I presume it's not that.  Except that if I first do a
single quote from the commandline, gnucash then fails on two of the four
instead of three of the four.  So it's looking like rate limit.

Jeff Abrahamson
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On 11/08/2019 19:53, John Ralls wrote:

> The "alphavantage" source is for stock quotes. To retrieve currency exchange rates use "currency":
>
> gnc-fq-dump currency EUR JPY
> 1 EUR = 118.31 JPY
>
> That's hard-coded inside of Finance::Quote to use alphavantage and so requires an API key.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
>> On Aug 11, 2019, at 10:35 AM, Jeff Abrahamson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Somewhat related, the Alphavantage docs as well as gnucash itself suggest that Yen is JPY.  And yet
>>
>> jeff@birdsong:~ $ gnc-fq-dump alphavantage EUR JPY
>> Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
>>     symbol: EUR (deduced)        <=== required
>>       date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
>>   currency: ** missing **        <=== required
>>       last:                      <=\      
>>        nav:                      <=== one of these
>>      price:                      <=/        
>>   timezone:                      <=== optional
>>
>> ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!
>>
>> =====
>>
>> Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
>>     symbol: JPY (deduced)        <=== required
>>       date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
>>   currency: ** missing **        <=== required
>>       last:                      <=\      
>>        nav:                      <=== one of these
>>      price:                      <=/        
>>   timezone:                      <=== optional
>>
>> ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!
>>
>> jeff@birdsong:~ $
>>
>> I'm I confused or is there a different way of fetching JPY FX?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/08/2019 19:20, Jeff Abrahamson wrote:
>>> That was it.  Thanks.
>>>
>>> I've also filed this:
>>>
>>> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797343
>>>
>>> Jeff Abrahamson
>>>
>>> http://p27.eu/jeff/
>>> http://transport-nantes.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/08/2019 21:39, John Ralls wrote:
>>>> Do you have an Alphavantage key set in $ALPHAVANTAGE_API_KEY (for command line tools like gnc-fq-dump) and in Preferences>Online Quotes (for GnuCash's internal use)?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Ralls
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 4, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Jeff Abrahamson <[hidden email]>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using gnucash 3.4 and Finance::Quote 1.47 on linux (ubuntu 19.04).
>>>>> I'm trying to get FQ to work for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I enter a dual-currency transaction, the quote editor pops up.  If
>>>>> I touch the "fetch rate" button, I see a dialog that says "unable to
>>>>> retrieve quotes for these items: CURRENCY:CHF" and three other currencies.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have precisely those four currencies in use, though I'm a bit confused
>>>>> why FQ would have tried to fetch all four at once when I only needed
>>>>> one.  I'm also confused why it found none.
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on a conversation on this list in 2018, I tried this:
>>>>>
>>>>>    jeff@birdsong:~ $ gnc-fq-dump currency USD EUR
>>>>>    1 USD = <unknown> EUR
>>>>>    jeff@birdsong:~ $ gnc-fq-dump alphavantage USD EUR
>>>>>    Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
>>>>>        symbol: USD (deduced)        <=== required
>>>>>          date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
>>>>>      currency: ** missing **        <=== required
>>>>>          last:                      <=\      
>>>>>           nav:                      <=== one of these
>>>>>         price:                      <=/      
>>>>>      timezone:                      <=== optional
>>>>>
>>>>>    ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!
>>>>>
>>>>>    =====
>>>>>
>>>>>    Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
>>>>>        symbol: EUR (deduced)        <=== required
>>>>>          date: ** missing **        <=== recommended
>>>>>      currency: ** missing **        <=== required
>>>>>          last:                      <=\      
>>>>>           nav:                      <=== one of these
>>>>>         price:                      <=/      
>>>>>      timezone:                      <=== optional
>>>>>
>>>>>    ** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!
>>>>>
>>>>>    jeff@birdsong:~ $
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions on what to do or what to test?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff Abrahamson
>>>>> +33 6 24 40 01 57
>>>>> +44 7920 594 255
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://p27.eu/jeff/
>>>>> http://transport-nantes.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> http://p27.eu/jeff/
>>> http://transport-nantes.com/
>> --
>>
>> Jeff Abrahamson
>> +33 6 24 40 01 57
>> +44 7920 594 255
>>
>>
>> http://p27.eu/jeff/
>> http://transport-nantes.com/

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http://p27.eu/jeff/
http://transport-nantes.com/


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