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scotts
I have been using Gnucash for about 3 years now, and for the most part
enjoying the experience! I use it for my personal finances (bank accounts,
credit cards, investments, etc). I am also the treasurer of a golf club
association and am considering moving their accounting over to Gnucash.

I am currently using Windows version 2.6.21. Of course at the moment, the
most current stable release is version 3.6. My only hesitation in upgrading
is what seems to me to be a very long list of "known issues" with the
release.

I'm looking for other opinions. In my experience, version 2.6.21 seems to
pretty much work as advertised. No crashes, runs quickly enough on my
computer, all the functions I've tried seem to work fine. Normally I would
upgrade any software to the latest release, hopefully taking advantage of
bug fixes and new features. But when I see the long list of issues, I
hesitate.

Would appreciate any comments from others. Am I being overly paranoid?
Thanks a lot!



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Re: [GNC] Concern with the lengthy list of "Known Issues"

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> On Jul 21, 2019, at 10:31 AM, scotts <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I have been using Gnucash for about 3 years now, and for the most part
> enjoying the experience! I use it for my personal finances (bank accounts,
> credit cards, investments, etc). I am also the treasurer of a golf club
> association and am considering moving their accounting over to Gnucash.
>
> I am currently using Windows version 2.6.21. Of course at the moment, the
> most current stable release is version 3.6. My only hesitation in upgrading
> is what seems to me to be a very long list of "known issues" with the
> release.
>
> I'm looking for other opinions. In my experience, version 2.6.21 seems to
> pretty much work as advertised. No crashes, runs quickly enough on my
> computer, all the functions I've tried seem to work fine. Normally I would
> upgrade any software to the latest release, hopefully taking advantage of
> bug fixes and new features. But when I see the long list of issues, I
> hesitate.
>
> Would appreciate any comments from others. Am I being overly paranoid?

The known issues list in the release notes is only the bugs that have been reported against 3.x releases. We didn't include open bugs in earlier release notes, but you can see the current list for the 2.6 series at https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6ztsgyn. It has 260 bugs... of course most of those also apply to GnuCash 3.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Concern with the lengthy list of "Known Issues"

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Scott,

I have been using GnuCash 3.6 on Linux Mint 19.1 since it was released (and
most of the V3 releases usually within a few days of their release) without
any significant issues at all. My usage is mainly for personal accounting
but I do use  a subset of the business features as well for a couple of
small ventures. The early V3.x versions certainly had a few more serious
issues but nearly all could be worked around fairly easily. Those have
largely been eliminated over the first 3-4 releases in the series.  The vast
majority of the list of remaining  issues largely qualify as minor
inconveniences and do not affect the core functionality of GnuCash. Others
with more demanding use of GnuCash than mine may disagree however.

The major issue with the shift from the 2.6 series to the v3 series is the
change in location of the configurations and the need to copy any stored
reports etc from the old location to the new location. These changes are
described in the wiki and there are posts in the GnuCash User archive
around the issues with stored reports.
(https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations)

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] Concern with the lengthy list of "Known Issues"

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I'll chime in here to say that I've had no significant problems using 3.4 or later. I've been using Gnucash for many years, and recently moved from using a Mac to using Windows. That transition left a few preferences for me to rediscover, but otherwise was smooth.

As for the migration of settings and reports from version 2 to 3, I admit that I didn't follow the discussions that closely, but I was given to understand that the transfers of settings and reports largely were handled by the software upgrade process seamlessly and automatically, and that only a few users encountered troubles.

Finally, as a background comment, the transition from version 2 to 3 entailed a change in an underlying UI package (gtk), which caused a large number of behavioral changes that resulted in a lot a "known issues."

Personally, I only look at the known issues if I have an issue of my own come up. Why trouble trouble?

David T.

On July 22, 2019, at 3:40 AM, David Cousens via gnucash-user <[hidden email]> wrote:

Scott,

I have been using GnuCash 3.6 on Linux Mint 19.1 since it was released (and
most of the V3 releases usually within a few days of their release) without
any significant issues at all. My usage is mainly for personal accounting
but I do use  a subset of the business features as well for a couple of
small ventures. The early V3.x versions certainly had a few more serious
issues but nearly all could be worked around fairly easily. Those have
largely been eliminated over the first 3-4 releases in the series.  The vast
majority of the list of remaining  issues largely qualify as minor
inconveniences and do not affect the core functionality of GnuCash. Others
with more demanding use of GnuCash than mine may disagree however.

The major issue with the shift from the 2.6 series to the v3 series is the
change in location of the configurations and the need to copy any stored
reports etc from the old location to the new location. These changes are
described in the wiki and there are posts in the GnuCash User archive
around the issues with stored reports.
(https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations)

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] Concern with the lengthy list of "Known Issues"

Rare Bear
I use 2 win 10 pc's and have GnuCash 3.6 on both.  The only "issue" that I
have run into in recent history is slow saves and that has been solved
several updates ago.  I used to update only one pc and stay with an earlier
version on my primary pc but I no longer even show that level of caution.

Totally Happy!

Dennis W

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 8:41 PM D via gnucash-user <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> I'll chime in here to say that I've had no significant problems using 3.4
> or later. I've been using Gnucash for many years, and recently moved from
> using a Mac to using Windows. That transition left a few preferences for me
> to rediscover, but otherwise was smooth.
>
> As for the migration of settings and reports from version 2 to 3, I admit
> that I didn't follow the discussions that closely, but I was given to
> understand that the transfers of settings and reports largely were handled
> by the software upgrade process seamlessly and automatically, and that only
> a few users encountered troubles.
>
> Finally, as a background comment, the transition from version 2 to 3
> entailed a change in an underlying UI package (gtk), which caused a large
> number of behavioral changes that resulted in a lot a "known issues."
>
> Personally, I only look at the known issues if I have an issue of my own
> come up. Why trouble trouble?
>
> David T.
>
> On July 22, 2019, at 3:40 AM, David Cousens via gnucash-user <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Scott,
>
> I have been using GnuCash 3.6 on Linux Mint 19.1 since it was released (and
> most of the V3 releases usually within a few days of their release) without
> any significant issues at all. My usage is mainly for personal accounting
> but I do use  a subset of the business features as well for a couple of
> small ventures. The early V3.x versions certainly had a few more serious
> issues but nearly all could be worked around fairly easily. Those have
> largely been eliminated over the first 3-4 releases in the series.  The
> vast
> majority of the list of remaining  issues largely qualify as minor
> inconveniences and do not affect the core functionality of GnuCash. Others
> with more demanding use of GnuCash than mine may disagree however.
>
> The major issue with the shift from the 2.6 series to the v3 series is the
> change in location of the configurations and the need to copy any stored
> reports etc from the old location to the new location. These changes are
> described in the wiki and there are posts in the GnuCash User archive
> around the issues with stored reports.
> (https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations)
>
> David Cousens
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Concern with the lengthy list of "Known Issues"

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On 2019-07-21 13:31, scotts wrote:
> I'm looking for other opinions. In my experience, version 2.6.21 seems to
> pretty much work as advertised. No crashes, runs quickly enough on my
> computer, all the functions I've tried seem to work fine. Normally I would
> upgrade any software to the latest release, hopefully taking advantage of
> bug fixes and new features. But when I see the long list of issues, I
> hesitate.
>
> Would appreciate any comments from others. Am I being overly paranoid?

Here's one data point --

I feel pretty much as you do, on all counts. I don't know whether that's
paranoid, but the long list of known issues, particularly the user
interface changes from the new GTK, have put me off from installing
version 3.

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I started with 2.x and had a couple of very irritating issues.  When  discovered 3.5, I up-graded and my issues were history.  I have since upgraded one of my systems to 3.6 still have only minor inconveniences.  I believe that I noticed the list you mentioned but I have seen similar lists in a lot of SW that I use and treat is as more of a "wish list" of things that might need fixing.  (In the process of up-grading, I discovered the manuals and have been able to improve my GC experience greatly.)Bruce

On 2019-07-21 13:31, scotts wrote:> I'm looking for other opinions. In my experience, version 2.6.21 seems to
> pretty much work as advertised. No crashes, runs quickly enough on my
> computer, all the functions I've tried seem to work fine. Normally I would
> upgrade any software to the latest release, hopefully taking advantage of
> bug fixes and new features. But when I see the long list of issues, I
> hesitate.
>
> Would appreciate any comments from others. Am I being overly paranoid?

On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 Stan Brown wrote:Here's one data point --

I feel pretty much as you do, on all counts. I don't know whether that's
paranoid, but the long list of known issues, particularly the user
interface changes from the new GTK, have put me off from installing
version 3.

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Re: [GNC] Concern with the lengthy list of "Known Issues"

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I think it would be a big help if that list were sorted by priority so the
many that are either minor or feature requests were separated from others.

David Carlson

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 9:14 AM Stan Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 2019-07-21 13:31, scotts wrote:
> > I'm looking for other opinions. In my experience, version 2.6.21 seems to
> > pretty much work as advertised. No crashes, runs quickly enough on my
> > computer, all the functions I've tried seem to work fine. Normally I
> would
> > upgrade any software to the latest release, hopefully taking advantage of
> > bug fixes and new features. But when I see the long list of issues, I
> > hesitate.
> >
> > Would appreciate any comments from others. Am I being overly paranoid?
>
> Here's one data point --
>
> I feel pretty much as you do, on all counts. I don't know whether that's
> paranoid, but the long list of known issues, particularly the user
> interface changes from the new GTK, have put me off from installing
> version 3.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Stan Brown
> Tompkins County, New York, USA
> http://BrownMath.com
> http://OakRoadSystems.com
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Re: [GNC] Concern with the lengthy list of "Known Issues"

John Ralls-2
The enhancement requests are already filtered out.

Unfortunately there's no good way to express priority or importance in BZ without getting into edit wars with some reporters, so we don't.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jul 22, 2019, at 8:58 AM, David Carlson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I think it would be a big help if that list were sorted by priority so the
> many that are either minor or feature requests were separated from others.
>
> David Carlson
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 9:14 AM Stan Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On 2019-07-21 13:31, scotts wrote:
>>> I'm looking for other opinions. In my experience, version 2.6.21 seems to
>>> pretty much work as advertised. No crashes, runs quickly enough on my
>>> computer, all the functions I've tried seem to work fine. Normally I
>> would
>>> upgrade any software to the latest release, hopefully taking advantage of
>>> bug fixes and new features. But when I see the long list of issues, I
>>> hesitate.
>>>
>>> Would appreciate any comments from others. Am I being overly paranoid?
>>
>> Here's one data point --
>>
>> I feel pretty much as you do, on all counts. I don't know whether that's
>> paranoid, but the long list of known issues, particularly the user
>> interface changes from the new GTK, have put me off from installing
>> version 3.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Stan Brown
>> Tompkins County, New York, USA
>> http://BrownMath.com
>> http://OakRoadSystems.com
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Re: [GNC] Concern with the lengthy list of "Known Issues"

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Hi,

I am using gnucash since 2004 for multiple accounts and have my whole personal history since then in one file. I am running gnucash on MacOs in German which is somewhat special and the only dev for MacOs is John. Thanks to him for all the work putting he is putting in! I was a pretty happy user up until 3.0.

But with the 3.x series there are more problems than I am used to and progress is very slow. The only version working for me so far is 3.5, which is my production version for now. Versions before crashed or failed on important operations (like the csv importer, which is the main reason I am using 3.x). 3.6 apparently has a stray ifdef on MacOs which makes the program always fall back to English. So I am back to 3.5.

And the release cycle is pretty long. So even when bugs are fixed it takes a lot of time to get them in a stable build.

As much as I am proponent of using the latest software versions: with gnucash 3.x I cannot wholeheartedly
recommend it. The good thing though is that you can try and go back. The latest 2.x version reads 3.x files. And switching between 3.x versions back and forth works too.

Cheers,
Christoph

> Am 21.07.2019 um 19:31 schrieb scotts <[hidden email]>:
>
> I have been using Gnucash for about 3 years now, and for the most part
> enjoying the experience! I use it for my personal finances (bank accounts,
> credit cards, investments, etc). I am also the treasurer of a golf club
> association and am considering moving their accounting over to Gnucash.
>
> I am currently using Windows version 2.6.21. Of course at the moment, the
> most current stable release is version 3.6. My only hesitation in upgrading
> is what seems to me to be a very long list of "known issues" with the
> release.
>
> I'm looking for other opinions. In my experience, version 2.6.21 seems to
> pretty much work as advertised. No crashes, runs quickly enough on my
> computer, all the functions I've tried seem to work fine. Normally I would
> upgrade any software to the latest release, hopefully taking advantage of
> bug fixes and new features. But when I see the long list of issues, I
> hesitate.
>
> Would appreciate any comments from others. Am I being overly paranoid?
> Thanks a lot!
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Concern with the lengthy list of "Known Issues"

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Scotts,

If you still haven't updated to the latest version, I would recommend
delaying further. My upgrade from 2.6.16 to 2.6.21 was without problems, but
the "upgrade" from 2.6.21 to 3.5 was more like a downgrade and I'm still
regretting it. (Windows 10)

The csv importer is better in 3.5 and allows configurations to be saved, but
whilst there may well be other enhancements that I haven't discovered yet,
there are a number of disappointments that affect my regular use of the
software...

1  The program takes a long time to load.
2  Tabs are much bigger. I like to have 16 of my regularly used accounts
open at the same time and have their tabs arranged down the right hand side
of the screen for quick access. In version 2.6 there was room for about 20
tabs on my laptop screen but with 3.5, there is only room for 12 and
scrolling to access the hidden tabs is not easy. Not only are the tabs
bigger than they need to be, but there is a 2mm padding between tabs.
3   Scroll bars are very narrow and there are no fine adjustment arrows so I
have to rely on dragging the bars or using the scroll wheel (when I have
one).

I don't know whether these are known issues or deliberate changes as I
haven't seen a list but, currently, I wish I had stayed with version 2.6.21

Alan



scotts wrote

> I have been using Gnucash for about 3 years now, and for the most part
> enjoying the experience! I use it for my personal finances (bank accounts,
> credit cards, investments, etc). I am also the treasurer of a golf club
> association and am considering moving their accounting over to Gnucash.
>
> I am currently using Windows version 2.6.21. Of course at the moment, the
> most current stable release is version 3.6. My only hesitation in
> upgrading
> is what seems to me to be a very long list of "known issues" with the
> release.
>
> I'm looking for other opinions. In my experience, version 2.6.21 seems to
> pretty much work as advertised. No crashes, runs quickly enough on my
> computer, all the functions I've tried seem to work fine. Normally I would
> upgrade any software to the latest release, hopefully taking advantage of
> bug fixes and new features. But when I see the long list of issues, I
> hesitate.
>
> Would appreciate any comments from others. Am I being overly paranoid?
> Thanks a lot!





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Re: [GNC] Concern with the lengthy list of "Known Issues"

Adrien Monteleone-2
Alan,

#1 Is a known issue for Windows. Note that on all platforms, the more tabs, especially reports, you have open when you last closed, the slower the app will be to re-launch. Also, unless you really have a need to close GnuCash, it isn’t strictly necessary. (Mine stays open 24/7 in its own workspace)

#2 is from the defaults picked up by the move to the updated graphics libraries. You can adjust the tab sizes and padding with a custom CSS file. Take a look at the GTK pages on the wiki for more info. Unfortunately, not everything is well documented for this. Some people have researched certain parts of the UI on this list, so you might find the tab info there. Otherwise, you’d need to run the GTKINSPECTOR tool, which I don’t think is available for Windows. (Linux and Mac only, as far as I’m aware)

I don’t think those defaults are ever going to be changed. Your only option would be a custom CSS file.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jul 27, 2019, at 1:58 AM, AEG via gnucash-user <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Scotts,
>
> If you still haven't updated to the latest version, I would recommend
> delaying further. My upgrade from 2.6.16 to 2.6.21 was without problems, but
> the "upgrade" from 2.6.21 to 3.5 was more like a downgrade and I'm still
> regretting it. (Windows 10)
>
> The csv importer is better in 3.5 and allows configurations to be saved, but
> whilst there may well be other enhancements that I haven't discovered yet,
> there are a number of disappointments that affect my regular use of the
> software...
>
> 1  The program takes a long time to load.
> 2  Tabs are much bigger. I like to have 16 of my regularly used accounts
> open at the same time and have their tabs arranged down the right hand side
> of the screen for quick access. In version 2.6 there was room for about 20
> tabs on my laptop screen but with 3.5, there is only room for 12 and
> scrolling to access the hidden tabs is not easy. Not only are the tabs
> bigger than they need to be, but there is a 2mm padding between tabs.
> 3   Scroll bars are very narrow and there are no fine adjustment arrows so I
> have to rely on dragging the bars or using the scroll wheel (when I have
> one).
>
> I don't know whether these are known issues or deliberate changes as I
> haven't seen a list but, currently, I wish I had stayed with version 2.6.21
>
> Alan

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Re: [GNC] Concern with the lengthy list of "Known Issues"

Christopher Lam
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I think the UI upgrades have been an unfortunate but necessary consequence
of many Linux distributions deciding to kill GTK2 and all GTK2- based apps.
If jralls or gjanssens haven't spent countless hours upgrading components
then GnuCash would have been dropped from all major distributions.

Most UI issues *can* be tweaked via CSS -- as everything here is
opensource, users are encouraged to dive in and amend to their liking.

Finally the list of issues bein long; apart from the GTK3 preferences  I
believe most of the "new" known issues in 3.x were also present, but
undocumented in 2.x.

On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 20:10, Christoph R <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am using gnucash since 2004 for multiple accounts and have my whole
> personal history since then in one file. I am running gnucash on MacOs in
> German which is somewhat special and the only dev for MacOs is John. Thanks
> to him for all the work putting he is putting in! I was a pretty happy user
> up until 3.0.
>
> But with the 3.x series there are more problems than I am used to and
> progress is very slow. The only version working for me so far is 3.5, which
> is my production version for now. Versions before crashed or failed on
> important operations (like the csv importer, which is the main reason I am
> using 3.x). 3.6 apparently has a stray ifdef on MacOs which makes the
> program always fall back to English. So I am back to 3.5.
>
> And the release cycle is pretty long. So even when bugs are fixed it takes
> a lot of time to get them in a stable build.
>
> As much as I am proponent of using the latest software versions: with
> gnucash 3.x I cannot wholeheartedly
> recommend it. The good thing though is that you can try and go back. The
> latest 2.x version reads 3.x files. And switching between 3.x versions back
> and forth works too.
>
> Cheers,
> Christoph
>
> > Am 21.07.2019 um 19:31 schrieb scotts <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > I have been using Gnucash for about 3 years now, and for the most part
> > enjoying the experience! I use it for my personal finances (bank
> accounts,
> > credit cards, investments, etc). I am also the treasurer of a golf club
> > association and am considering moving their accounting over to Gnucash.
> >
> > I am currently using Windows version 2.6.21. Of course at the moment, the
> > most current stable release is version 3.6. My only hesitation in
> upgrading
> > is what seems to me to be a very long list of "known issues" with the
> > release.
> >
> > I'm looking for other opinions. In my experience, version 2.6.21 seems to
> > pretty much work as advertised. No crashes, runs quickly enough on my
> > computer, all the functions I've tried seem to work fine. Normally I
> would
> > upgrade any software to the latest release, hopefully taking advantage of
> > bug fixes and new features. But when I see the long list of issues, I
> > hesitate.
> >
> > Would appreciate any comments from others. Am I being overly paranoid?
> > Thanks a lot!
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [GNC] Concern with the lengthy list of "Known Issues"

John Ralls-2
The distros didn't kill off Gtk2, that's still there. They stopped supporting WebKit1Gtk, and WebKit2Gtk supports only Gtk3 so we had to migrate to Gtk3 or get booted from distros.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jul 27, 2019, at 3:18 AM, Christopher Lam <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I think the UI upgrades have been an unfortunate but necessary consequence
> of many Linux distributions deciding to kill GTK2 and all GTK2- based apps.
> If jralls or gjanssens haven't spent countless hours upgrading components
> then GnuCash would have been dropped from all major distributions.
>
> Most UI issues *can* be tweaked via CSS -- as everything here is
> opensource, users are encouraged to dive in and amend to their liking.
>
> Finally the list of issues bein long; apart from the GTK3 preferences  I
> believe most of the "new" known issues in 3.x were also present, but
> undocumented in 2.x.
>
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 20:10, Christoph R <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am using gnucash since 2004 for multiple accounts and have my whole
>> personal history since then in one file. I am running gnucash on MacOs in
>> German which is somewhat special and the only dev for MacOs is John. Thanks
>> to him for all the work putting he is putting in! I was a pretty happy user
>> up until 3.0.
>>
>> But with the 3.x series there are more problems than I am used to and
>> progress is very slow. The only version working for me so far is 3.5, which
>> is my production version for now. Versions before crashed or failed on
>> important operations (like the csv importer, which is the main reason I am
>> using 3.x). 3.6 apparently has a stray ifdef on MacOs which makes the
>> program always fall back to English. So I am back to 3.5.
>>
>> And the release cycle is pretty long. So even when bugs are fixed it takes
>> a lot of time to get them in a stable build.
>>
>> As much as I am proponent of using the latest software versions: with
>> gnucash 3.x I cannot wholeheartedly
>> recommend it. The good thing though is that you can try and go back. The
>> latest 2.x version reads 3.x files. And switching between 3.x versions back
>> and forth works too.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Christoph
>>
>>> Am 21.07.2019 um 19:31 schrieb scotts <[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>> I have been using Gnucash for about 3 years now, and for the most part
>>> enjoying the experience! I use it for my personal finances (bank
>> accounts,
>>> credit cards, investments, etc). I am also the treasurer of a golf club
>>> association and am considering moving their accounting over to Gnucash.
>>>
>>> I am currently using Windows version 2.6.21. Of course at the moment, the
>>> most current stable release is version 3.6. My only hesitation in
>> upgrading
>>> is what seems to me to be a very long list of "known issues" with the
>>> release.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for other opinions. In my experience, version 2.6.21 seems to
>>> pretty much work as advertised. No crashes, runs quickly enough on my
>>> computer, all the functions I've tried seem to work fine. Normally I
>> would
>>> upgrade any software to the latest release, hopefully taking advantage of
>>> bug fixes and new features. But when I see the long list of issues, I
>>> hesitate.
>>>
>>> Would appreciate any comments from others. Am I being overly paranoid?
>>> Thanks a lot!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [GNC] Concern with the lengthy list of "Known Issues"

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Op maandag 22 juli 2019 00:09:02 CEST schreef David Cousens via gnucash-user:

> Scott,
>
> I have been using GnuCash 3.6 on Linux Mint 19.1 since it was released (and
> most of the V3 releases usually within a few days of their release) without
> any significant issues at all. My usage is mainly for personal accounting
> but I do use  a subset of the business features as well for a couple of
> small ventures. The early V3.x versions certainly had a few more serious
> issues but nearly all could be worked around fairly easily. Those have
> largely been eliminated over the first 3-4 releases in the series.  The vast
> majority of the list of remaining  issues largely qualify as minor
> inconveniences and do not affect the core functionality of GnuCash. Others
> with more demanding use of GnuCash than mine may disagree however.
>
> The major issue with the shift from the 2.6 series to the v3 series is the
> change in location of the configurations and the need to copy any stored
> reports etc from the old location to the new location. These changes are
> described in the wiki and there are posts in the GnuCash User archive
> around the issues with stored reports.
> (https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations)

Allow me to stress this particular issue should be fixed for most users.
Gnucash is supposed to do this migration for you, but due to a few bugs in the
early 3.x releases this failed in several cases. The migration should be much
improved in more recent releases.

If you still encounter this particular issue, please do report it and please
do follow up on future fixes by emulating a migration to verify if these fixes
would have solved your migration.

So how can you emulate a migration ?
1. You need your original DOT_GNUCASH_DIR [1] (.gnucash) still present on your
computer
2. Rename your GNC_DATA_DIR [1] and GNC_CONFIG_DIR [1] to something like
GnuCash-good (Note that on Macos and Windows GNC_DATA_DIR [1] and
GNC_CONFIG_DIR [1] are one and the same directory so there's only one
directory to rename on those platforms). Note this serves both as a backup of
your known good data and to reset the migration. If these directories exist,
the migration won't run.
3. Start gnucash 3.x
4. Verify
- it pops up a metadata migration notice.
- gnucash opens with the same tabs open as when you last closed your book in
gnucash 2.6 (ypu may have opened and closed tabs in the 3.x series but we're
migrating from the 2.6 situation!)
- your saved report configurations are there (again as they were in gnucash
2.6 - you may have made changes meanwhile by running gnucash 3.x on your book
for some time).
6. If they are, migration works for you. If not, there is still a bug in the
migration that needs fixing. Please file a bug report [2] and attach the most
recent tracefile [3] (the one that was generated while testing the migration).

Last but not least:
7. quit GnuCash
8. Remove the newly created GNC_DATA_DIR [1] and GNC_CONFIG_DIR [1]
8. Rename GNC_DATA_DIR [1] and GNC_CONFIG_DIR [1] from GnuCash-good back to
their original names on your platform

Regards,

Geert

[1] I'm using symbolic names for these directories as their exact names are
platform dependent. You can find the exact names for your platform here:
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations
[2] Refer to http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Bugzilla on how to use our bug
tracker
[3] http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile


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