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Les Elliott

Finance::Quote

Since last Jan., none of my currencies have updated. I use USD, AUD,
SGD, CAD, CHF, Euro, BPB, HKD, CNY in my transactions (I trade
international stocks, etc).
I have been updating them manually through the price editor and it is a
big pain. I haven't a clue what happened in Jan. to kill this process.
I have another anomaly; after updating the price of CAD, it does not do
any translation to USD (my base currency),
nor does it update the price of my Canadian stocks. All other stocks
seem to update ok.
All of the above was on a Mac book pro. beginning with ver. 2.4.3 and
now upgraded to 2.4.10.

As an alternative, I just installed a new LinuxMint 12 (Debian Ver) on a
netbook with 2.4.10 yesterday and have the exact same problem. I am
beginning to think that this might be file related, as I imported my
gnucash files from my Mac.

After the install and encountering the same problem, I did gnc-fq-dump
yahoo CAD and got a response back which looks right.

This is a huge headache and would really appreciate some pointers or ...?

Thanks in advance.

Les

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John Ralls-2

Re: Finance::Quote

On Apr 30, 2012, at 4:19 AM, Les wrote:

> Since last Jan., none of my currencies have updated. I use USD, AUD,
> SGD, CAD, CHF, Euro, BPB, HKD, CNY in my transactions (I trade
> international stocks, etc).
> I have been updating them manually through the price editor and it is a
> big pain. I haven't a clue what happened in Jan. to kill this process.
> I have another anomaly; after updating the price of CAD, it does not do
> any translation to USD (my base currency),
> nor does it update the price of my Canadian stocks. All other stocks
> seem to update ok.
> All of the above was on a Mac book pro. beginning with ver. 2.4.3 and
> now upgraded to 2.4.10.
>
> As an alternative, I just installed a new LinuxMint 12 (Debian Ver) on a
> netbook with 2.4.10 yesterday and have the exact same problem. I am
> beginning to think that this might be file related, as I imported my
> gnucash files from my Mac.
>
> After the install and encountering the same problem, I did gnc-fq-dump
> yahoo CAD and got a response back which looks right.
>
> This is a huge headache and would really appreciate some pointers or ...?
>
> Thanks in advance.

This has come up repeatedly here. It's nothing to do with you or with Gnucash. Yahoo changed the output and Finance::Quote needs to be patched to fix it. The maintainer of F::Q hasn't done a release in years, and I don't know if the fix for this has even been committed to his Github repository.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Mike Alexander

Re: Finance::Quote

--On April 30, 2012 7:02:02 AM -0700 John Ralls <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> This has come up repeatedly here. It's nothing to do with you or with
> Gnucash. Yahoo changed the output and Finance::Quote needs to be
> patched to fix it. The maintainer of F::Q hasn't done a release in
> years, and I don't know if the fix for this has even been committed
> to his Github repository.
>

Yes, there has been some activity on the github repository for F::Q.
There were a number of commits around April 1 which fixed a number of
problems, including the currency quote problem. There hasn't been a
new release and there are more problems that need to be fixed.

Mike

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Les Elliott

Re: Finance::Quote

On 05/02/2012 11:29 PM, Mike Alexander wrote:

> --On May 2, 2012 5:21:22 AM -0500 Les <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Mike:
>> I followed a thread, which began around the 1st of Feb relating to
>> patches for F::Q and tried to patch with the first one which was
>> fairly old. (This is on a new install of LinuxMint 12 (Deb ver) and
>> GC 2.4.10.)
>> I navigated to the location of F::Q (/usr/share/perl5/Finance) and
>> did patch -p1 /path to patch/Quote.pm.diff. Nothing happened except
>> for the cursor blinking for over an hour. It seems I have done
>> something wrong in regards to the patch.
>>
>> I would appreciate any suggestions as to how to make the patches.
>> The man page looks very straightforward. I have downloaded 3 patches
>> that others have reported to have fixed the currency update problem.
>
> I don't really know why your having problems applying the patches.
> The patch utility has a lot of options and it's sometimes difficult to
> get them right. It should never run for more than a second or two
> however. It normally reads the patch file from stdin, did you leave
> out the "<" redirection character? If you entered something like
>
> patch -p0 patchfile
>
> instead of
>
> patch -p0 <patchfile
>
> it might appear to hang since it would be reading a patch file from
> your terminal.
>
> If all you want is the currency fixes, they are in the version of
> github now. It might be simpler to download that and install it
> instead of trying to apply the patches.
>
> Mike

Mike:
Thanks for your reply:

It appears that I was not using < in the patch. When I did use it, I got
a message about wrong line number. I don't know what that means. (I am
not technical, just a user.)

The currency fixes is really all I am interested in. Where can I find
the currency fixes (I don't know what github is or where to find it)?
Thanks,

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prl

Re: Finance::Quote

On 3/05/12 20:40, Les wrote:
> It appears that I was not using < in the patch. When I did use it, I
> got a message about wrong line number. I don't know what that means.
> (I am not technical, just a user.)
>
Patch takes as input the output of a Unix "diff oldversion newversion >
diffs", and applies it to files listed in the diff output to convert
them from the old version to the new version. It first tries to find the
place where a change is to be made by using the line numbers in the diff
output. If that fails, it tries to pattern-match the text of the old
version in the diffs file against the old version of the file. If that
match succeeds, the patch is preformed, but a warning is printed,
because it means that the old verson being patched isn't identical with
the oldversion that was used to generate the patch.

Much of the time this doesn't cause any problems, but you can't be
certain that patch has done the right thing.

Short version: the version that you're patching isn't identical to the
version that the patch is supposed to be applied to. That may be OK, or
it may not.

Peter
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Les Elliott

Re: Finance::Quote

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On 05/03/2012 11:12 AM, Mike Alexander wrote:

> --On May 3, 2012 5:40:18 AM -0500 Les <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> It appears that I was not using < in the patch. When I did use it, I
>> got a message about wrong line number. I don't know what that means.
>> (I am not technical, just a user.)
>
> That probably means that the file you are applying the patch to is not
> the correct version. Either that or it's just a warning and the patch
> was applied successfully. Without seeing the exact message I can't tell.
>
>> The currency fixes is really all I am interested in. Where can I find
>> the currency fixes (I don't know what github is or where to find it)?
>
> If that's the case you may be better off waiting for a new release,
> assuming there is one. You can download the current version of it
> from GitHub using the URL
> <https://github.com/pfenwick/finance-quote/zipball/master> but you
> would have to install this version since this is a source distribution
> and isn't ready to use as it stands. Since it's Perl, you don't need
> any other tools to install it, but you will have to read and
> understand the instructions. I'm afraid I'm not in a position to do
> it for you since I'm about to leave town for a month.
>
> Mike
>
>

Perhaps I can get some assistance for my local LUG; there are several
Perl guys on the list.
Thanks,
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Manoj Kumar

RE: Finance::Quote

Hi,

Patched Quote.pm is available with the following message -

http://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2012-February/043255.html

Regards,

> Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 11:23:13 -0500
> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Finance::Quote
>
> On 05/03/2012 11:12 AM, Mike Alexander wrote:
> > --On May 3, 2012 5:40:18 AM -0500 Les <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> It appears that I was not using < in the patch. When I did use it, I
> >> got a message about wrong line number. I don't know what that means.
> >> (I am not technical, just a user.)
> >
> > That probably means that the file you are applying the patch to is not
> > the correct version. Either that or it's just a warning and the patch
> > was applied successfully. Without seeing the exact message I can't tell.
> >
> >> The currency fixes is really all I am interested in. Where can I find
> >> the currency fixes (I don't know what github is or where to find it)?
> >
> > If that's the case you may be better off waiting for a new release,
> > assuming there is one. You can download the current version of it
> > from GitHub using the URL
> > <https://github.com/pfenwick/finance-quote/zipball/master> but you
> > would have to install this version since this is a source distribution
> > and isn't ready to use as it stands. Since it's Perl, you don't need
> > any other tools to install it, but you will have to read and
> > understand the instructions. I'm afraid I'm not in a position to do
> > it for you since I'm about to leave town for a month.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> Perhaps I can get some assistance for my local LUG; there are several
> Perl guys on the list.
> Thanks,
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Les Elliott

Re: Finance::Quote

On 05/03/2012 11:36 AM, Manoj Kumar wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Patched Quote.pm is available with the following message -
>
> http://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2012-February/043255.html
>
> Regards,
>
> > Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 11:23:13 -0500
> > From: [hidden email]
> > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: Finance::Quote
> >
> > On 05/03/2012 11:12 AM, Mike Alexander wrote:
> > > --On May 3, 2012 5:40:18 AM -0500 Les <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> It appears that I was not using < in the patch. When I did use it, I
> > >> got a message about wrong line number. I don't know what that means.
> > >> (I am not technical, just a user.)
> > >
> > > That probably means that the file you are applying the patch to is
> not
> > > the correct version. Either that or it's just a warning and the patch
> > > was applied successfully. Without seeing the exact message I can't
> tell.
> > >
> > >> The currency fixes is really all I am interested in. Where can I find
> > >> the currency fixes (I don't know what github is or where to find it)?
> > >
> > > If that's the case you may be better off waiting for a new release,
> > > assuming there is one. You can download the current version of it
> > > from GitHub using the URL
> > > <https://github.com/pfenwick/finance-quote/zipball/master> but you
> > > would have to install this version since this is a source
> distribution
> > > and isn't ready to use as it stands. Since it's Perl, you don't need
> > > any other tools to install it, but you will have to read and
> > > understand the instructions. I'm afraid I'm not in a position to do
> > > it for you since I'm about to leave town for a month.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > Perhaps I can get some assistance for my local LUG; there are several
> > Perl guys on the list.
> > Thanks,
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So, do I download, unzip and replace the existing Quote.pm?

Thanks,

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Les Elliott

Re: Finance::Quote

In reply to this post by Manoj Kumar

On 05/03/2012 11:36 AM, Manoj Kumar wrote:

I used the downloaded files and successfully updated F::Q. The only
remaining issue is that Canadian stocks do not seem to update. I tried
several different sources in Security Editor, but none would update a
large Canadian stock.

But the really great news is my currencies are updating now. YEAH!!!
Thanks for pointing me to this folder.

Regards,
Les
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Derek Atkins

Re: Finance::Quote

Les <[hidden email]> writes:

> I used the downloaded files and successfully updated F::Q. The only
> remaining issue is that Canadian stocks do not seem to update. I
> tried several different sources in Security Editor, but none would
> update a large Canadian stock.
>
> But the really great news is my currencies are updating now. YEAH!!!
> Thanks for pointing me to this folder.

Which quote source are you using for your Canadian Stocks? Is it
possible that the grabber for that site is still broken?

> Regards,
> Les

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Les Elliott

Re: Finance::Quote

On 05/07/2012 09:04 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:

> Les <[hidden email]> writes:
>
>> I used the downloaded files and successfully updated F::Q. The only
>> remaining issue is that Canadian stocks do not seem to update. I
>> tried several different sources in Security Editor, but none would
>> update a large Canadian stock.
>>
>> But the really great news is my currencies are updating now. YEAH!!!
>> Thanks for pointing me to this folder.
> Which quote source are you using for your Canadian Stocks? Is it
> possible that the grabber for that site is still broken?
>
>> Regards,
>> Les
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>

I have tried several from the list in the Security Editor. None seem to
work. I suppose the grabber is still broken. I don't know if the
currency update addressed that function.

Thanks,
Les

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Derek Atkins

Re: Finance::Quote

Les <[hidden email]> writes:

> On 05/07/2012 09:04 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
>> Les <[hidden email]> writes:
>>
>>> I used the downloaded files and successfully updated F::Q. The only
>>> remaining issue is that Canadian stocks do not seem to update. I
>>> tried several different sources in Security Editor, but none would
>>> update a large Canadian stock.
>>>
>>> But the really great news is my currencies are updating now. YEAH!!!
>>> Thanks for pointing me to this folder.
>> Which quote source are you using for your Canadian Stocks? Is it
>> possible that the grabber for that site is still broken?
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Les
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>> -derek
>>
> I have tried several from the list in the Security Editor. None seem to
> work. I suppose the grabber is still broken. I don't know if the
> currency update addressed that function.

Have you tried using gnc-fq-dump to test F::Q?

> Thanks,
> Les

-derek

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Les Elliott

Re: Finance::Quote

On 05/08/2012 02:17 PM, Derek Atkins wrote:

> Les <[hidden email]> writes:
>
>> On 05/07/2012 09:04 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
>>> Les <[hidden email]> writes:
>>>
>>>> I used the downloaded files and successfully updated F::Q. The only
>>>> remaining issue is that Canadian stocks do not seem to update. I
>>>> tried several different sources in Security Editor, but none would
>>>> update a large Canadian stock.
>>>>
>>>> But the really great news is my currencies are updating now. YEAH!!!
>>>> Thanks for pointing me to this folder.
>>> Which quote source are you using for your Canadian Stocks? Is it
>>> possible that the grabber for that site is still broken?
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Les
>>>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
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>>> -derek
>>>
>> I have tried several from the list in the Security Editor. None seem to
>> work. I suppose the grabber is still broken. I don't know if the
>> currency update addressed that function.
> Have you tried using gnc-fq-dump to test F::Q?
>
>> Thanks,
>> Les
> -derek
>

I have tried gnc-fq-dump and it works for many stocks, but none of my
Canadian stocks. It also does not work with at least on stock listed on
the Singapore exchange.
Les
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Derek Atkins

Re: Finance::Quote

Les <[hidden email]> writes:

>> Have you tried using gnc-fq-dump to test F::Q?
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Les
>> -derek
>>
> I have tried gnc-fq-dump and it works for many stocks, but none of my
> Canadian stocks. It also does not work with at least on stock listed on
> the Singapore exchange.
> Les

That implies that either the F::Q grabber for those sources is broken,
or you have the wrong symbol.

-derek

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Les Elliott

Re: Finance::Quote

On 05/09/2012 11:46 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:

> Les <[hidden email]> writes:
>
>>> Have you tried using gnc-fq-dump to test F::Q?
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Les
>>> -derek
>>>
>> I have tried gnc-fq-dump and it works for many stocks, but none of my
>> Canadian stocks. It also does not work with at least on stock listed on
>> the Singapore exchange.
>> Les
> That implies that either the F::Q grabber for those sources is broken,
> or you have the wrong symbol.
>
> -derek
>

I do not have the wrong symbols because I am already invested in these
stocks and I have verified the symbols with the various exchanges. So,
I am guessing that the grabber for them is broken.

Assuming that is the problem, is there a solution?

Thanks,
Les
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Cam Ellison-2

Re: Finance::Quote

On 12-05-09 10:10 AM, Les wrote:

>> That implies that either the F::Q grabber for those sources is broken,
>> or you have the wrong symbol.
>>
>> -derek
>>
> I do not have the wrong symbols because I am already invested in these
> stocks and I have verified the symbols with the various exchanges. So,
> I am guessing that the grabber for them is broken.
>
> Assuming that is the problem, is there a solution?

Which quote source are you using?

Cheers

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Derek Atkins

Re: Finance::Quote

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Les <[hidden email]> writes:

> On 05/09/2012 11:46 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
>> Les <[hidden email]> writes:
>>
>>>> Have you tried using gnc-fq-dump to test F::Q?
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Les
>>>> -derek
>>>>
>>> I have tried gnc-fq-dump and it works for many stocks, but none of my
>>> Canadian stocks. It also does not work with at least on stock listed on
>>> the Singapore exchange.
>>> Les
>> That implies that either the F::Q grabber for those sources is broken,
>> or you have the wrong symbol.
>>
>> -derek
>>
> I do not have the wrong symbols because I am already invested in these
> stocks and I have verified the symbols with the various exchanges. So,
> I am guessing that the grabber for them is broken.

Bad assumption. Are you sure that you are using the correct symbol *for
the quote source*. Just because you know the symbol is FOO does not
mean that the quote source will accept FOO. It might require FOO.GB, or
FOO0123, or some other variation.

> Assuming that is the problem, is there a solution?

Assuming you have the correct symbol *for the quote source*, then the
problem is likely a problem with the F::Q grabber. In which case you
would need to work with a F::Q developer to get it fixed. :(

> Thanks,
> Les

-derek

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Les Elliott

Re: Finance::Quote

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Derek Atkins <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Les <[hidden email]> writes:
>
> > On 05/09/2012 11:46 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> >> Les <[hidden email]> writes:
> >>
> >>>> Have you tried using gnc-fq-dump to test F::Q?
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Les
> >>>> -derek
> >>>>
> >>> I have tried gnc-fq-dump and it works for many stocks, but none of my
> >>> Canadian stocks. It also does not work with at least on stock listed
> on
> >>> the Singapore exchange.
> >>> Les
> >> That implies that either the F::Q grabber for those sources is broken,
> >> or you have the wrong symbol.
> >>
> >> -derek
> >>
> > I do not have the wrong symbols because I am already invested in these
> > stocks and I have verified the symbols with the various exchanges. So,
> > I am guessing that the grabber for them is broken.
>
> Bad assumption. Are you sure that you are using the correct symbol *for
> the quote source*. Just because you know the symbol is FOO does not
> mean that the quote source will accept FOO. It might require FOO.GB, or
> FOO0123, or some other variation.
>
> > Assuming that is the problem, is there a solution?
>
> Assuming you have the correct symbol *for the quote source*, then the
> problem is likely a problem with the F::Q grabber. In which case you
> would need to work with a F::Q developer to get it fixed. :(
>
> > Thanks,
> > Les
>
> -derek
>
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How would I tell if it is the correct symbol for the quote source? My ASX
stocks have no problem with the "official symbols".

Les
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Re: Finance::Quote

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On 05/09/2012 12:20 PM, Cam Ellison wrote:

> On 12-05-09 10:10 AM, Les wrote:
>>> That implies that either the F::Q grabber for those sources is broken,
>>> or you have the wrong symbol.
>>>
>>> -derek
>>>
>> I do not have the wrong symbols because I am already invested in these
>> stocks and I have verified the symbols with the various exchanges. So,
>> I am guessing that the grabber for them is broken.
>>
>> Assuming that is the problem, is there a solution?
> Which quote source are you using?
>
> Cheers
>
> Cam
>
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For Singapore (SGX) the only one I am aware of is Yahoo Asia. For
Canadian stocks, I have tried TSX, TD Waterhouse, Finance Canada, and
Yahoo Canada.

Les
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Cam Ellison-2

Re: Finance::Quote

On 12-05-09 11:36 AM, Les wrote:
>
> For Singapore (SGX) the only one I am aware of is Yahoo Asia. For
> Canadian stocks, I have tried TSX, TD Waterhouse, Finance Canada, and
> Yahoo Canada.
>
I have all of mine set to Multiple: Canada (Yahoo, ...). I found Single
did not work.

HTH

Cam

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